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Re: [Mgs] wanted - now DSG 7 speed

To: "Paul Hunt" <paul.hunt1@blueyonder.co.uk>, "Dan DiBiase"
Subject: Re: [Mgs] wanted - now DSG 7 speed
From: "Hans Duinhoven" <h.duinhoven@planet.nl>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:09:21 +0100
Well Paul,

All these "green" features of my new car have to be accredited by the Dutch 
authoroties, so I assume it all is well approved. This gearbox gets into a 
"free" coasting state whenever the speed is over 20 Km/h or higher and the 
throttle pedal is fully released.
But whenever I apply the brakepedal, the DG box immediately engages the 
right gearnumber for the current speed. It all works very well.
Whenever you know how the gearbox behaves, you can anticipate to its 
behaviour.
F.I. this afternoon I approached traffic lights, which went red and I still 
had to drive quite a distance.
So I released the throttle pedal and the car slowed down at a very easy 
pace.
I have the feeling this behaviour truly saves fuel.

I know the fact of fully shutting down fuel injection when coasting with 
gears engaged.
My previous car just did that (I could see the fuel economy meter go up 
faster than normal when doing this.
However, I cannot changed the behaviour of my DSG gearbox at this spot.
And I must say coasting the DSG mode I do now gives a very much longer 
remaining distance to drive, than I did with my previous car. Point is, one 
had to have enough space upfront knowing the traffic lights are not getting 
green, because then you miss the possibility to pass the green lights.
Secondly the cars behind me may become annoyed by my snail behaviour.....

The DSG gearbox is fully automatic, so I cannot force the box to get into 
the 7th gear.
In fact the gear switching program is designed sucht, that it changes gears 
at very low revs - everytime I'm very surprised how easy the engine still 
pulls well at 1,300 RPM in highest gear (7) up onto a bridge!

Still I'm very happy with this automatic gearbox, when I compare it with a 
traditional automatic gearbox.
I have drive an Audi A6 automatic 5-speed for almost 200,000 miles and that 
box behaved like a truck.
I do like to USA car automatic gearboxes better - my wife drives a Daewoo 
Lanos (GM gearbox), which works great, my collegue Bam drives a Chrysler 
300C V8 SRT, which also has a nice gearbox and before the Audi I drove a 
Chrysler Voyager automatic, which also had a nice gearchange.
But when you once have experienced a DSG, you never want to go back to a 
traditional one....

Cheers,

Hans
71 BGT well asleep in wintertime - lots of snow and slippery & salty roads 
are no good for a seventies car...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Hunt" <paul.hunt1@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: "Hans Duinhoven" <h.duinhoven@planet.nl>; "Dan DiBiase" 
<d_dibiase@yahoo.com>
Cc: <mgs@Autox.Team.Net>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] wanted - now DSG 7 speed


> Are you sure about that?  In the UK coasting out of gear is a test 
> failure,
> and may be illegal (it was certainly cause for disqualification in the MPG
> trials of years ago).  From what I've read just taking the foot off coasts
> in gear, and that causes the fuel supply to shut off altogether (like most
> if not all computer-controlled injection systems) but coasting in neutral
> (which is selectable on any car of course) causes the engine to use fuel 
> at
> the idling rate.  If you have an mpg (kpl?) meter you should be able to
> see this, or maybe you can see it on the gear selector display?  Many
> (including Jeremy Clarkson) claim that it's more economical to coast in 
> gear
> because of this, but as the momentum of the car is being used up in
> uselessly spinning the engine, i.e. slowing you down faster, I doubt that,
> just try pushing you car on the flat in neutral and then in top gear!
>
> PaulH.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> When coasting to a traffic light, the DSG switches itself out of gear,
>> which
>> gives a long coasting possibility.
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