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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Finding a Blown Fuse (Automotive)
From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 17:25:03 -0600
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Good to hear. Now you know of one more fuse box, hope there are no more hidd=
en!

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity


On Nov 11, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Eric Russell <ejrussell61@gmail.com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
So, the blown fuse turned out to be an I-D-10-T issue. When I crawled up und=
er the hood of the new (to us) motorhome to change the oil (they do not make=
 this an easy task...) I noticed a box way over on the left side labeled "Ba=
ttery Control Center (Fuses Inside)". And buried therein was fuse # F17 'Car=
go Lights'. Which indeed was blown. Maybe Thor (the motorhome manufacturer) w=
as trying to tell me to check there - but I clearly described the place I ha=
d checked was the Ford "Power Distribution Box".=20

EjR=20


On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 8:57 AM Eric Russell <ejrussell61@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the replies. It may be a week or more before I gather the energ=
y to search for the fault again. I've already wasted two afternoons and have=
 other more important things to do (getting ready to go racing in VRG's Turk=
ey Bowl at Summit Point, WV). The idea of using a tone generating tool is in=
teresting. Horrible Fright has a $25 version - I may give that a try.=20
>=20
> EjR=20
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> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 8:12 AM John <jbach@swiftrecruiters.com> wrote:
>> How about a GFCI outlet that has tripped?
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 11/10/2021 7:15 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
>>> Oh wise & beneficent Shop Talkers - I've run into a situation that has m=
e stymied. I need help locating a blown fuse in a motorhome.=20
>>>=20
>>> We recently bought a new (to us) motorhome. When installing the signal b=
ooster for a TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring System) I accidentally shorted a=
 12V wire in the cargo bay lights. There was a small spark (followed by a fe=
w swear words). I then went on a hunt for the blown fuse. There are three fu=
se panels in this motorhome. Two in the Ford chassis (F-53) - one under the h=
ood and the other inside near the parking brake - plus one in the motorhome'=
s 120V - 12V power converter. I could not find a blown fuse anywhere.=20
>>>=20
>>> I contacted the manufacturer (Thor) who has actually been quite responsi=
ve & has tried to help. After asking for my vehicle's VIN they emailed me so=
me schematics (not actual wire diagrams but more a map showing the general l=
ocation of outlets, switches, etc with indications of which circuit they bel=
ong to). There are two schematics that appear to apply to my motorhome - one=
 indicates the cargo lights are connected to the Ford panel by the parking b=
rake, another indicates they are in circuit #6 of the converter's 12V panel.=
 Neither of those fuses are blown. While there I checked all the fuses I cou=
ld locate - none were blown. I've also signed up to a couple of motorhome fo=
rums but have not been able to find an answer there.=20
>>>=20
>>> Finally - my plea for help - is there any device one can use to trace wh=
ere a circuit originates? I've seen an electrician use a device to find out w=
hat outlet goes to which breaker in our house.
>>>=20
>>> I've followed the hot wire from the cargo bay light back to where it ent=
ers a wire harness along the motorhome's frame rail. I'm loath to rip open t=
he wire harness trying to chase the wire further upstream. As far as I can t=
ell there is nothing else in this circuit - everything else is working prope=
rly. Of course I can live without cargo bay lights but it bothers my OCD to h=
ave it not working (when I know it did before my screw up).=20
>>>=20
>>> --=20
>>> Eric Russell
>>> Mebane, NC
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> Eric Russell
> Mebane, NC


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Good to hear. Now you know of one more fuse=
 box, hope there are no more hidden!<div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat=
<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity=
</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Nov 11, 2021, at 4:52 PM,=
 Eric Russell &lt;ejrussell61@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">So, the blown fuse turned out to be an I-D-10=
-T issue. When I crawled up under the hood of the&nbsp;new (to us) motorhome=
 to change the oil (they do not make this an easy task...) I noticed a box w=
ay over on the left side labeled "Battery Control Center (Fuses Inside)". An=
d buried therein was fuse # F17 'Cargo Lights'. Which indeed was blown. Mayb=
e Thor (the motorhome manufacturer) was trying to tell me to check there - b=
ut I clearly described the place I had checked was the Ford "Power Distribut=
ion Box".&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>EjR&nbsp;</div><div><br></div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 1=
1, 2021 at 8:57 AM Eric Russell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ejrussell61@gmail.com"=
>ejrussell61@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for the replies. It may be a wee=
k or more before I gather the energy to search for the fault again. I've alr=
eady wasted two afternoons and have other more important things to do (getti=
ng ready to go racing in VRG's Turkey Bowl at Summit Point, WV). The idea of=
 using a tone generating tool is interesting. Horrible Fright has a $25 vers=
ion - I may give that a try.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>EjR&nbsp;</div><div><b=
r></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 8:12 AM John &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jbach@swif=
trecruiters.com" target=3D"_blank">jbach@swiftrecruiters.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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  <div>
    <p>How about a GFCI outlet that has tripped?</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div>On 11/10/2021 7:15 PM, Eric Russell
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Oh wise &amp; beneficent Shop Talkers - I've run
        into a situation that has me stymied. I need help locating a
        blown fuse in a motorhome.&nbsp;
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>We recently bought a new (to us) motorhome. When installing
          the signal booster for a TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring
          System) I accidentally&nbsp;shorted a 12V wire in the cargo bay
          lights. There was a small spark (followed by a few swear
          words). I then went on a hunt for the blown fuse. There are
          three fuse panels in this motorhome. Two in the Ford chassis
          (F-53) - one under the hood and the other inside near the
          parking brake - plus one in the motorhome's 120V - 12V power
          converter. I could not find a blown fuse anywhere.&nbsp;
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>I contacted the manufacturer (Thor) who has actually been
            quite responsive &amp; has tried to help. After asking for
            my vehicle's VIN they emailed me some schematics (not actual
            wire diagrams but more a map showing the general location of
            outlets, switches, etc with indications of which circuit
            they belong to). There are two schematics that appear to
            apply to my motorhome - one indicates the cargo lights are
            connected to the Ford panel by the parking brake, another
            indicates they are in circuit #6 of the converter's 12V
            panel. Neither of those fuses are blown. While there I
            checked all the fuses I could locate - none were blown. I've
            also signed up to a couple of motorhome forums but have not
            been able to find an answer there.&nbsp;</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Finally - my plea for help - is there any device one can
            use to trace where a circuit originates? I've seen an
            electrician use a device to find out what outlet goes to
            which breaker in our house.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>I've followed the hot wire from the cargo bay light back
            to where it enters a wire harness along the motorhome's
            frame rail. I'm loath to rip open the wire harness trying to
            chase the wire further upstream. As far as I can tell there
            is nothing else in this circuit - everything else is working
            properly. Of course I can live without cargo bay lights but
            it bothers my OCD to have it not working (when I know it did
            before my screw up).&nbsp;<br clear=3D"all">
            <div><br>
            </div>
            -- <br>
            <div dir=3D"ltr">
              <div dir=3D"ltr">Eric Russell
                <div>Mebane, NC</div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
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