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The bcc is an an RV Custom Products product, installed by the converter. So=
me of them were recalled, check that yours wasn=E2=80=99t, or the repair was=
done. Failure was total loss of power to anything not installed in the chas=
sis maker=E2=80=99s factory.=20
> On Nov 11, 2021, at 17:00, Eric Russell <ejrussell61@gmail.com> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Correction - the hidden in plain view fuse was labeled F31. That designati=
on was never mentioned in any of my emails with Thor or their schematics. I d=
o not know if this part was installed by Thor or some aftermarket modificati=
on.=20
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> EjR=20
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>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:51 PM Eric Russell <ejrussell61@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>> So, the blown fuse turned out to be an I-D-10-T issue. When I crawled up u=
nder the hood of the new (to us) motorhome to change the oil (they do not ma=
ke this an easy task...) I noticed a box way over on the left side labeled "=
Battery Control Center (Fuses Inside)". And buried therein was fuse # F17 'C=
argo Lights'. Which indeed was blown. Maybe Thor (the motorhome manufacturer=
) was trying to tell me to check there - but I clearly described the place I=
had checked was the Ford "Power Distribution Box".=20
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>> EjR=20
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>>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 8:57 AM Eric Russell <ejrussell61@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>>> Thanks for the replies. It may be a week or more before I gather the ene=
rgy to search for the fault again. I've already wasted two afternoons and ha=
ve other more important things to do (getting ready to go racing in VRG's Tu=
rkey Bowl at Summit Point, WV). The idea of using a tone generating tool is i=
nteresting. Horrible Fright has a $25 version - I may give that a try.=20
>>>=20
>>> EjR=20
>>>=20
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>>>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 8:12 AM John <jbach@swiftrecruiters.com> wrote:=
>>>> How about a GFCI outlet that has tripped?
>>>>=20
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>>>> On 11/10/2021 7:15 PM, Eric Russell wrote:
>>>>> Oh wise & beneficent Shop Talkers - I've run into a situation that has=
me stymied. I need help locating a blown fuse in a motorhome.=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> We recently bought a new (to us) motorhome. When installing the signal=
booster for a TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring System) I accidentally shorted=
a 12V wire in the cargo bay lights. There was a small spark (followed by a f=
ew swear words). I then went on a hunt for the blown fuse. There are three f=
use panels in this motorhome. Two in the Ford chassis (F-53) - one under the=
hood and the other inside near the parking brake - plus one in the motorhom=
e's 120V - 12V power converter. I could not find a blown fuse anywhere.=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I contacted the manufacturer (Thor) who has actually been quite respon=
sive & has tried to help. After asking for my vehicle's VIN they emailed me s=
ome schematics (not actual wire diagrams but more a map showing the general l=
ocation of outlets, switches, etc with indications of which circuit they bel=
ong to). There are two schematics that appear to apply to my motorhome - one=
indicates the cargo lights are connected to the Ford panel by the parking b=
rake, another indicates they are in circuit #6 of the converter's 12V panel.=
Neither of those fuses are blown. While there I checked all the fuses I cou=
ld locate - none were blown. I've also signed up to a couple of motorhome fo=
rums but have not been able to find an answer there.=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Finally - my plea for help - is there any device one can use to trace w=
here a circuit originates? I've seen an electrician use a device to find out=
what outlet goes to which breaker in our house.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I've followed the hot wire from the cargo bay light back to where it e=
nters a wire harness along the motorhome's frame rail. I'm loath to rip open=
the wire harness trying to chase the wire further upstream. As far as I can=
tell there is nothing else in this circuit - everything else is working pro=
perly. Of course I can live without cargo bay lights but it bothers my OCD t=
o have it not working (when I know it did before my screw up).=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> --=20
>>>>> Eric Russell
>>>>> Mebane, NC
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">The bcc is an an RV Custom=
Products product, installed by the converter. Some of them were recal=
led, check that yours wasn=E2=80=99t, or the repair was done. Failure was to=
tal loss of power to anything not installed in the chassis maker=E2=80=99s f=
actory. </div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 11, 2021, at 17:00, Eric R=
ussell <ejrussell61@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">Correction - t=
he hidden in plain view fuse was labeled F31. That designation was never men=
tioned in any of my emails with Thor or their schematics. I do not know if t=
his part was installed by Thor or some aftermarket modification. <div><=
br></div><div>EjR </div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:51 PM E=
ric Russell <<a href=3D"mailto:ejrussell61@gmail.com";>ejrussell61@gmail.c=
om</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">So, the blown fuse turned out to be an I-D-10-T issue. When=
I crawled up under the hood of the new (to us) motorhome to change the=
oil (they do not make this an easy task...) I noticed a box way over on the=
left side labeled "Battery Control Center (Fuses Inside)". And buried there=
in was fuse # F17 'Cargo Lights'. Which indeed was blown. Maybe Thor (the mo=
torhome manufacturer) was trying to tell me to check there - but I clearly d=
escribed the place I had checked was the Ford "Power Distribution Box". =
;<div><br></div><div>EjR </div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 8:=
57 AM Eric Russell <<a href=3D"mailto:ejrussell61@gmail.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank">ejrussell61@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for the replies. It may be a=
week or more before I gather the energy to search for the fault again. I've=
already wasted two afternoons and have other more important things to do (g=
etting ready to go racing in VRG's Turkey Bowl at Summit Point, WV). The ide=
a of using a tone generating tool is interesting. Horrible Fright has a $25 v=
ersion - I may give that a try. <div><br></div><div>EjR </div><div=
><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gm=
ail_attr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 8:12 AM John <<a href=3D"mailto:jbach@s=
wiftrecruiters.com" target=3D"_blank">jbach@swiftrecruiters.com</a>> wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
=20
=20
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<div>
<p>How about a GFCI outlet that has tripped?</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div>On 11/10/2021 7:15 PM, Eric Russell
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
<div dir=3D"ltr">Oh wise & beneficent Shop Talkers - I've run
into a situation that has me stymied. I need help locating a
blown fuse in a motorhome.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We recently bought a new (to us) motorhome. When installing
the signal booster for a TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring
System) I accidentally shorted a 12V wire in the cargo bay
lights. There was a small spark (followed by a few swear
words). I then went on a hunt for the blown fuse. There are
three fuse panels in this motorhome. Two in the Ford chassis
(F-53) - one under the hood and the other inside near the
parking brake - plus one in the motorhome's 120V - 12V power
converter. I could not find a blown fuse anywhere.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I contacted the manufacturer (Thor) who has actually been
quite responsive & has tried to help. After asking for
my vehicle's VIN they emailed me some schematics (not actual
wire diagrams but more a map showing the general location of
outlets, switches, etc with indications of which circuit
they belong to). There are two schematics that appear to
apply to my motorhome - one indicates the cargo lights are
connected to the Ford panel by the parking brake, another
indicates they are in circuit #6 of the converter's 12V
panel. Neither of those fuses are blown. While there I
checked all the fuses I could locate - none were blown. I've
also signed up to a couple of motorhome forums but have not
been able to find an answer there. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Finally - my plea for help - is there any device one can
use to trace where a circuit originates? I've seen an
electrician use a device to find out what outlet goes to
which breaker in our house.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I've followed the hot wire from the cargo bay light back
to where it enters a wire harness along the motorhome's
frame rail. I'm loath to rip open the wire harness trying to
chase the wire further upstream. As far as I can tell there
is nothing else in this circuit - everything else is working
properly. Of course I can live without cargo bay lights but
it bothers my OCD to have it not working (when I know it did
before my screw up). <br clear=3D"all">
<div><br>
</div>
-- <br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Eric Russell
<div>Mebane, NC</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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