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Re: Light assembly question

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Subject: Re: Light assembly question
From: "Len & Bonnie Lubbers" <lubbers@sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:17:39 -0700
Doug, Dean's got it... The front turn signal light assemblies are attached
to the corner valances with two course threaded screws.  They screw into
nuts which clip behind the holes you are talking about. No need to get your
hands in there. The light assembly has extra holes for mounting on either
side of the car.  The coloured lens then screws to the assembly.

Len Lubbers '79 Spitfire
Ottawa, Canada www3.sympatico.ca/lubbers

----- Original Message -----
From: <Dean.Dashwood@enron.com>
To: <dmitchel@ford.com>
Cc: <vicwhit@home.com>; <spitfires@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 6:17 AM
Subject: RE: Light assembly question


>
> Doug,
>
> You're absolutely right - I'm talking about the UK spec turn indicators
and
> parking lights (or side lights, as we know them over here).  Sorry -
should
> have made that clear to start with.  Will we ever learn that we speak
> different languages?
>
> As for the clip-on captured nut with fingers in a hanger, I have
absolutely
> no idea what you're talking about!  Does anyone know what this thing is
> called, or where I can get one?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dean
> ---------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> To:   "'Dean.Dashwood@enron.com'" <Dean.Dashwood@enron.com>,
>       vicwhit@home.com
> cc:   spitfires@autox.team.net
>
> Subject:  RE: Light assembly question
>
>
> It's been a long time since I pulled my front side lights,
> but I seem to remember that rather than a self tapping screw,
> you should have a clip-on type of captured nut. In fact,
> the longer I think about it, that is exactly what is there.
> Not sure what the nut is called, but it has a couple of fingers
> that clip in front of the panel, and the nut is in a hanger
> that sits behind the metal. I won't try any nasty looking
> ascii art.
>
> Vic, you are thinking of the side marker lights that we use
> in North America, Dean is referring to the front park and turn
> lights.
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean.Dashwood@enron.com [mailto:Dean.Dashwood@enron.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:46 AM
> To: vicwhit@home.com
> Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Light assembly question
>
>
>
> Vic,
>
> No studs - at least, not on my existing unit, but I'll see what the new
one
> has when it's delivered.
>
> So, that doesn't answer the question - how do you get the nuts and washers
> on the back?  It's a hollow unit, and I can't find an access hole big
> enough to get my hand through to reach the back.....
>
> I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here!
>
> Dean
> ------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> To:   Dean.Dashwood@enron.com
> cc:   spitfires@autox.team.net
>
> Subject:  Re: Light assembly question
>
>
> No screws, just two bolts with washers and nuts.  In fact, AFAIK, there
are
> two
> studs on the back of the base that go through the body panel and then the
> washers and nuts go on the studs.
>
> Vic Whitmore
> 76 Spitfire
> Thornhill, Ontario
>
> Dean.Dashwood@enron.com wrote:
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > Ok, it's my turn to ask a really stupid question.
> >
> > First of all, a bit of background.  Last week I discovered some
> > "interesting" things happening with my front side-light and indicator on
> my
> > 1500.  Turn the lights on, the indicator tell-tale comes on but the side
> > light doesn't.  Turn the indicator on, and if you're lucky the
side-light
> > flashes but the indicator doesn't.  That's what I mean by "interesting".
> >
> > On the advice of some club members, I checked out all the earths, and
> > couldn't find anything wrong.  But a bit more investigation revealed
that
> > they had pointed me at least roughly in the right direction.  I removed
> the
> > front light assembly, and with the help of an ohm-meter, discovered a
> > couple of thousand ohms resisatance between both the bulb holders and
the
> > earth connection on the assembly.  Cross-checking with the wiring
diagram
> > confirmed that this would indeed cause the symptoms I was seeing, with
> > current from the side-light flowing "backwards" through the indicator
> > circuit, lighting the tell-tale, and probably earthing through another
> > indicator.  I decided the best solution was to replace the assembly, so
> > I've ordered a new one.
> >
> > Now, electrically, I have no problem with this.  My stupid question
> relates
> > to the physical fitting of this lighting assembly to the car.  The
> assembly
> > contains six screw-holes.  As far as I can tell, four of these are for
> > attaching the assembly to the car, and the other two are for attaching
> the
> > coloured panels onto the assembly.  The problem is that, of the four
> screws
> > which attach the assembly to the car, I only have holes on the car for
> two
> > of them - and I only have two screws.  One of the two screws is a
> > self-tapping type, and secures the assembly to the car without any nuts
> or
> > anything on the other side.  The other screw is also a self-tapping
type,
> > but the hole is too big for it, so it serves no useful purpose.  My
whole
> > lighting assembly is held in by one screw, and no nuts!
> >
> > Now, I'm sure this isn't right, but I'm not sure how it's supposed to be
> > held on.  Are there supposed to be nuts/washers?  Seems to me that there
> > probably should be, but I can't figure out how to get my hand round the
> > back to position the nuts onto the screws!  Or are these supposed to be
> > self-tapping screws - in which case I'll buy another one, drill a couple
> > more holes, and use three screws instead of one (ignoring the too-big
> > hole)?
> >
> > Ok, I said it was a stupid question, but I'd rather not have bits of my
> car
> > fall off just because I couldn't figure out how to put a nut on the back
> of
> > screw.....
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dean
> > ---------------------
>
> --
> Vic Whitmore
> 76 Spitfire
> Thornhill, Ontario
>
> http://www.vicwhit.com

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