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RE: Light assembly question

To: "'Dean.Dashwood@enron.com'" <Dean.Dashwood@enron.com>
Subject: RE: Light assembly question
From: "Mitchell, Doug (D.B.)" <dmitchel@ford.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:09:06 -0400
Dean,

No, part 62 is the screw used to secure the sidelights to the
body. There is another screw pictured in front of the light
that is used to secure the lens and frame to the back plate.
There is actually another threaded screw hole for that screw.

Doug


-----Original Message-----
From: Dean.Dashwood@enron.com [mailto:Dean.Dashwood@enron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:01 AM
To: dmitchel@ford.com
Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Light assembly question



Oh, right!

Actually, looking at the picture, I think part 61 might be used to secure
the lenses to the back plate, rather than the back plate to the car - I'm
not sure.  But I certainly get the idea.  I'll have to hunt around and see
if I've got anything like that lying around the house - otherwise, I'll
give Kippings a call.

PS - When did Kippings update their website?  I haven't been there for
ages, because it was fairly crap the last time I was there - but this looks
like a quality site now.

Thanks Doug and Vic.  Hopefully I'll be able to get this sorted this
weekend.

Cheers,

Dean
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To:   "'Dean.Dashwood@enron.com'" <Dean.Dashwood@enron.com>, "Mitchell,
      Doug (D.B.)" <dmitchel@ford.com>
cc:   vicwhit@home.com, spitfires@autox.team.net

Subject:  RE: Light assembly question


Dean,

If you go to http://www.kipping.co.uk/lights.htm, number 61 is
the part in question.

The Rimmer parts list doesn't show the part.

Doug


-----Original Message-----
From: Dean.Dashwood@enron.com [mailto:Dean.Dashwood@enron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:17 AM
To: dmitchel@ford.com
Cc: vicwhit@home.com; spitfires@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Light assembly question



Doug,

You're absolutely right - I'm talking about the UK spec turn indicators and
parking lights (or side lights, as we know them over here).  Sorry - should
have made that clear to start with.  Will we ever learn that we speak
different languages?

As for the clip-on captured nut with fingers in a hanger, I have absolutely
no idea what you're talking about!  Does anyone know what this thing is
called, or where I can get one?

Cheers,

Dean
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To:   "'Dean.Dashwood@enron.com'" <Dean.Dashwood@enron.com>,
      vicwhit@home.com
cc:   spitfires@autox.team.net

Subject:  RE: Light assembly question


It's been a long time since I pulled my front side lights,
but I seem to remember that rather than a self tapping screw,
you should have a clip-on type of captured nut. In fact,
the longer I think about it, that is exactly what is there.
Not sure what the nut is called, but it has a couple of fingers
that clip in front of the panel, and the nut is in a hanger
that sits behind the metal. I won't try any nasty looking
ascii art.

Vic, you are thinking of the side marker lights that we use
in North America, Dean is referring to the front park and turn
lights.

Doug



-----Original Message-----
From: Dean.Dashwood@enron.com [mailto:Dean.Dashwood@enron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:46 AM
To: vicwhit@home.com
Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Light assembly question



Vic,

No studs - at least, not on my existing unit, but I'll see what the new one
has when it's delivered.

So, that doesn't answer the question - how do you get the nuts and washers
on the back?  It's a hollow unit, and I can't find an access hole big
enough to get my hand through to reach the back.....

I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here!

Dean
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To:   Dean.Dashwood@enron.com
cc:   spitfires@autox.team.net

Subject:  Re: Light assembly question


No screws, just two bolts with washers and nuts.  In fact, AFAIK, there are
two
studs on the back of the base that go through the body panel and then the
washers and nuts go on the studs.

Vic Whitmore
76 Spitfire
Thornhill, Ontario

Dean.Dashwood@enron.com wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> Ok, it's my turn to ask a really stupid question.
>
> First of all, a bit of background.  Last week I discovered some
> "interesting" things happening with my front side-light and indicator on
my
> 1500.  Turn the lights on, the indicator tell-tale comes on but the side
> light doesn't.  Turn the indicator on, and if you're lucky the side-light
> flashes but the indicator doesn't.  That's what I mean by "interesting".
>
> On the advice of some club members, I checked out all the earths, and
> couldn't find anything wrong.  But a bit more investigation revealed that
> they had pointed me at least roughly in the right direction.  I removed
the
> front light assembly, and with the help of an ohm-meter, discovered a
> couple of thousand ohms resisatance between both the bulb holders and the
> earth connection on the assembly.  Cross-checking with the wiring diagram
> confirmed that this would indeed cause the symptoms I was seeing, with
> current from the side-light flowing "backwards" through the indicator
> circuit, lighting the tell-tale, and probably earthing through another
> indicator.  I decided the best solution was to replace the assembly, so
> I've ordered a new one.
>
> Now, electrically, I have no problem with this.  My stupid question
relates
> to the physical fitting of this lighting assembly to the car.  The
assembly
> contains six screw-holes.  As far as I can tell, four of these are for
> attaching the assembly to the car, and the other two are for attaching
the
> coloured panels onto the assembly.  The problem is that, of the four
screws
> which attach the assembly to the car, I only have holes on the car for
two
> of them - and I only have two screws.  One of the two screws is a
> self-tapping type, and secures the assembly to the car without any nuts
or
> anything on the other side.  The other screw is also a self-tapping type,
> but the hole is too big for it, so it serves no useful purpose.  My whole
> lighting assembly is held in by one screw, and no nuts!
>
> Now, I'm sure this isn't right, but I'm not sure how it's supposed to be
> held on.  Are there supposed to be nuts/washers?  Seems to me that there
> probably should be, but I can't figure out how to get my hand round the
> back to position the nuts onto the screws!  Or are these supposed to be
> self-tapping screws - in which case I'll buy another one, drill a couple
> more holes, and use three screws instead of one (ignoring the too-big
> hole)?
>
> Ok, I said it was a stupid question, but I'd rather not have bits of my
car
> fall off just because I couldn't figure out how to put a nut on the back
of
> screw.....
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dean
> ---------------------

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Vic Whitmore
76 Spitfire
Thornhill, Ontario

http://www.vicwhit.com

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