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RE: Light assembly question

To: "'Vic Whitmore'" <vicwhit@home.com>
Subject: RE: Light assembly question
From: "Mitchell, Doug (D.B.)" <dmitchel@ford.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:12:42 -0400
Yeah,

We gotta get those Brits to speak the same way as what we do.
Maybe then they'll use the right words for the parts. I mean
who do they think they are??  ;)

Cheers,

Doug


-----Original Message-----
From: Vic Whitmore [mailto:vicwhit@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:03 AM
To: Mitchell, Doug (D.B.)
Cc: 'Dean.Dashwood@enron.com'; spitfires@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Light assembly question


You are right Doug. I was thinking the side marker lights. I'm at work now
so I
can't look at the front turn signal lights and, like you, it has been too
long
since I worked on them.

Vic W.

"Mitchell, Doug (D.B.)" wrote:
> 
> It's been a long time since I pulled my front side lights,
> but I seem to remember that rather than a self tapping screw,
> you should have a clip-on type of captured nut. In fact,
> the longer I think about it, that is exactly what is there.
> Not sure what the nut is called, but it has a couple of fingers
> that clip in front of the panel, and the nut is in a hanger
> that sits behind the metal. I won't try any nasty looking
> ascii art.
> 
> Vic, you are thinking of the side marker lights that we use
> in North America, Dean is referring to the front park and turn
> lights.
> 
> Doug
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean.Dashwood@enron.com [mailto:Dean.Dashwood@enron.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:46 AM
> To: vicwhit@home.com
> Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Light assembly question
> 
> Vic,
> 
> No studs - at least, not on my existing unit, but I'll see what the new
one
> has when it's delivered.
> 
> So, that doesn't answer the question - how do you get the nuts and washers
> on the back?  It's a hollow unit, and I can't find an access hole big
> enough to get my hand through to reach the back.....
> 
> I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here!
> 
> Dean
> ------------------------
> 
> To:   Dean.Dashwood@enron.com
> cc:   spitfires@autox.team.net
> 
> Subject:  Re: Light assembly question
> 
> No screws, just two bolts with washers and nuts.  In fact, AFAIK, there
are
> two
> studs on the back of the base that go through the body panel and then the
> washers and nuts go on the studs.
> 
> Vic Whitmore
> 76 Spitfire
> Thornhill, Ontario
> 
> Dean.Dashwood@enron.com wrote:
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > Ok, it's my turn to ask a really stupid question.
> >
> > First of all, a bit of background.  Last week I discovered some
> > "interesting" things happening with my front side-light and indicator on
> my
> > 1500.  Turn the lights on, the indicator tell-tale comes on but the side
> > light doesn't.  Turn the indicator on, and if you're lucky the
side-light
> > flashes but the indicator doesn't.  That's what I mean by "interesting".
> >
> > On the advice of some club members, I checked out all the earths, and
> > couldn't find anything wrong.  But a bit more investigation revealed
that
> > they had pointed me at least roughly in the right direction.  I removed
> the
> > front light assembly, and with the help of an ohm-meter, discovered a
> > couple of thousand ohms resisatance between both the bulb holders and
the
> > earth connection on the assembly.  Cross-checking with the wiring
diagram
> > confirmed that this would indeed cause the symptoms I was seeing, with
> > current from the side-light flowing "backwards" through the indicator
> > circuit, lighting the tell-tale, and probably earthing through another
> > indicator.  I decided the best solution was to replace the assembly, so
> > I've ordered a new one.
> >
> > Now, electrically, I have no problem with this.  My stupid question
> relates
> > to the physical fitting of this lighting assembly to the car.  The
> assembly
> > contains six screw-holes.  As far as I can tell, four of these are for
> > attaching the assembly to the car, and the other two are for attaching
> the
> > coloured panels onto the assembly.  The problem is that, of the four
> screws
> > which attach the assembly to the car, I only have holes on the car for
> two
> > of them - and I only have two screws.  One of the two screws is a
> > self-tapping type, and secures the assembly to the car without any nuts
> or
> > anything on the other side.  The other screw is also a self-tapping
type,
> > but the hole is too big for it, so it serves no useful purpose.  My
whole
> > lighting assembly is held in by one screw, and no nuts!
> >
> > Now, I'm sure this isn't right, but I'm not sure how it's supposed to be
> > held on.  Are there supposed to be nuts/washers?  Seems to me that there
> > probably should be, but I can't figure out how to get my hand round the
> > back to position the nuts onto the screws!  Or are these supposed to be
> > self-tapping screws - in which case I'll buy another one, drill a couple
> > more holes, and use three screws instead of one (ignoring the too-big
> > hole)?
> >
> > Ok, I said it was a stupid question, but I'd rather not have bits of my
> car
> > fall off just because I couldn't figure out how to put a nut on the back
> of
> > screw.....
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dean
> > ---------------------
> 
> --
> Vic Whitmore
> 76 Spitfire
> Thornhill, Ontario
> 
> http://www.vicwhit.com

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