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Re: Ice And ABS (NO LBC)

To: davidr@sunset.net, tboicey@brit.ca
Subject: Re: Ice And ABS (NO LBC)
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 04:55:51 GMT FILETIME=[D637CF70:01C047AD]
Cc: Spridgets@autox.team.net
I have a question.  Would you still be able to perform cool maneuvers like 
in TV car chases with ABS?  Sliding around corners and whipping around from 
reverse (although I think this particular maneuver uses the rear wheel 
emergency brake instead of the foot brake).
Ryan


>From: "David Riker" <davidr@sunset.net>
>Reply-To: "David Riker" <davidr@sunset.net>
>To: "Trevor Boicey" <tboicey@brit.ca>
>CC: "Spridgets" <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: Ice And ABS (NO LBC)
>Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:39:59 -0800
>
>There is one other situation that ABS is a detriment, although this is 
>wayyy
>off of the original topic.  The situation is similar to snow, and that is
>off-road 4x4ing down a hill in sand.  It is desirable to lock the wheels to
>allow a  mound of sand to build up in front of the wheel to assist with
>stopping.
>David Riker
>74 Midget
>63 Falcon
>70 Torino
>http://personalweb.sunset.net/~davidr
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Trevor Boicey" <tboicey@brit.ca>
>To: "Nolan Penney" <npenney@erols.com>
>Cc: "Spridgets" <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 7:11 PM
>Subject: Re: Ice And ABS (NO LBC)
>
>
> > Nolan Penney wrote:
> > > MmHm, an amusing thread, with plenty of idiotic claims.  Locking all 
>the
>wheels up
> > > and fooling the abs, using a wedge of snow to stop the car, etc.
> >
> >   ...longtime listers will know that I'm usually the first
> > guy to step in to try to control the spread of these
> > type of "disabling ABS is safer" urban myths, but... I
> > have to pipe up for this one, the snow wedge is for real.
> >
> >   Again, "snow" means a lot of things to a lot of
> > people. If you live in the south, you probably think
> > of snow as "1cm of white powder" and you might have a hard
> > time beleiving that it could ever stop a car.
> >
> >   However, if you live in the north, and you
> > hear snow and think of knee deep wet slime, the effect
> > is not only plausible it's pretty bloody obvious.
> >
> >   Oh the whole, ABS is a no brainer, I'd take it in any
> > car overall. Only those "everybody is stupid except
> > me" types that feel they know better than every major
> > corporation could think otherwise. But then
> > again, "thinking otherwise" is seemingly the point
> > of their lives. (throw the word "pathetic" in there
> > somewhere if you feel so inclined)
> >
> >   I mention this more as curiousity than
> > actually any kind of endorsement for disabling
> > your ABS. More of a parlour trick than any real thing
> > to base car decisions on.
> >
> >   However, as much as I want to say "ABS stops faster
> > in any situation", the snow wedge is AFAIK the only
> > "curious exception" to an otherwise lovely rule.
> >
> >   Simply, it really does work. If you are in deep
> > snow and do a long controlled slide up to a stop
> > sign, you can even feel it as the big mound you
> > have to get over to get going again. If you can
> > get going again. ;>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Trevor Boicey, P. Eng.
> > Ottawa, Canada, tboicey@brit.ca
> > ICQ #17432933 http://www.brit.ca/~tboicey/
> > "Look Marge, Maggie lost her baby legs!" - Homer

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