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Re: [Spridgets] Mike's fuelish Bugeye

To: rrengineer.mike@att.net, crusaderchuck55@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mike's fuelish Bugeye
From: miniac7--- via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 18:55:22 +0000 (UTC)
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The reason I asked about the fuel tank sealer is that I recently had a tank=
 which had been sealed, where the sealer disintegrated, and clogged up one =
of the filters which resulted in intermittent running.

Speaking of Ethanol fuel, I am going to start using Ethanol-free fuel for m=
y LBC's.

The good news is, the closest station listed on the Puregas web site is a S=
unoco station about 20 minutes from my home. The bad news is, they only car=
ry 110 octane racing fuel in Ethanol-free at $8/gallon.
The next closest station is about 45 minutes away, but well worth the drive=
. I guess I'll be stocking up on some additional 6 gallon fuel jugs.
https://www.pure-gas.org/
Howard Collins
In a message dated 7/22/2020 2:37:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, rrengineer.m=
ike@att.net writes:


Tank was originally rebuilt by Renuzit which probably coated the interior w=
ith something, but that was over 20 years ago.=C2=A0 Fuel filter looks fine=
.=C2=A0 It is one of the clear plastic VW type filters.=C2=A0 I can't see a=
nything from the outside of the filter, but that does not mean it is not pl=
ugged.=C2=A0 Yes, I have tried running the fuel pump with the gas cap off a=
nd it was still cavitating.=C2=A0 It only started pumping again after I dis=
connected the fuel line from the filter near the carb.=C2=A0 Today I am goi=
ng to disconnect the fuel line on the other side of the filter and try it a=
gain.=C2=A0 Also going to lift the rear of the car and check the fuel line =
from the pump to the tank.=C2=A0 Maybe ethanol has done it's damage to the =
rubber line.
 Mike MacLean
On Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 10:25:15 AM PDT, miniac7--- via Spridgets <spr=
idgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

I have more questions than answers right now:
... Was this tank ever sealed with a chemical fuel tank sealer?
... How does the fuel filter look?
... Have you tried running the engine with the fuel tank cap removed?
Howard Collins


In a message dated 7/22/2020 10:46:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, spridgets@a=
utox.team.net writes:

Alrighty then! ( Ace Ventura moment!)I am smelling a rat in the fuel delive=
ry system not the carb!First is your fuel pump set up at the tank or in the=
 engine compartment?=C2=A0 =C2=A0That's a beginning.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Pumps seem=
 to like being close to the tank pushing fuel as opposed to being well away=
 from the tank and pulling fuel.
 These fuel tanks have a fixed pick up tube in them that can be a real pain=
 in the posterior if anything has obstructed the tube , end of the tube rus=
ted off or a tank sealer applied and glued the tube shut or tank sealer app=
lied wrong & peeling off , clogging the pickup tube.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Another fu=
n one ( happened to my car early in my ownership!) Is the lost has cap , ra=
g stuffed in the filler neck and OOPS , rag ended up in the tank!=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0Does nothing initially but eventually the electric pump sucked the tag a=
gainst th e pickup tube , and sediment fouled the rag and it acted like a b=
locked fuel filter.=C2=A0 Started , ran for a bit and would quit...=C2=A0 T=
hat drove me crazy until I dropped the tank , pulled the sending unit and l=
ooks into the tank !=C2=A0=20
Mike somewhere you have a restriction keeping your fuel from freely flowing=
 from the pickup in the tank to feed your pump.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Possibly an int=
ernally collapsing rubber fuel line connecting pump to tank?=C2=A0 =C2=A0Th=
is ethanol fuel has done some rather odd stuff to rubber components over ti=
me.
 Just some thoughts which might point you in a direction of discovering wha=
t is wrong.Chuck
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; 
color: #000000;">The reason I asked about the fuel tank sealer is that I 
recently had a tank which had been sealed, where the sealer disintegrated, and 
clogged up one of the filters which resulted in intermittent 
running.<br></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; 
color: #000000;">Speaking of Ethanol fuel, I am going to start using 
Ethanol-free fuel for my LBC's.<br></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; 
color: #000000;">The good news is, the closest station listed on the Puregas 
web site is a Sunoco station about 20 minutes from my home. The bad news is, 
they only carry 110 octane racing fuel in Ethanol-free at 
$8/gallon.</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; 
color: #000000;">The next closest station is about 45 minutes away, but well 
worth the drive. I guess I'll be stocking up on some additional 6 gallon fuel 
jugs.</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; 
color: #000000;"><a 
href="https://www.pure-gas.org/";>https://www.pure-gas.org/</a></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; 
color: #000000;">Howard Collins</span></div>
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In a message dated 7/22/2020 2:37:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
rrengineer.mike@att.net writes:
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<div dir="ltr">Tank was originally rebuilt by Renuzit which probably coated the 
interior with something, but that was over 20 years ago.&nbsp; Fuel filter 
looks fine.&nbsp; It is one of the clear plastic VW type filters.&nbsp; I can't 
see anything from the outside of the filter, but that does not mean it is not 
plugged.&nbsp; Yes, I have tried running the fuel pump with the gas cap off and 
it was still cavitating.&nbsp; It only started pumping again after I 
disconnected the fuel line from the filter near the carb.&nbsp; Today I am 
going to disconnect the fuel line on the other side of the filter and try it 
again.&nbsp; Also going to lift the rear of the car and check the fuel line 
from the pump to the tank.&nbsp; Maybe ethanol has done it's damage to the 
rubber line.<br> </div>
<div dir="ltr">Mike MacLean</div>
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<div>On Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 10:25:15 AM PDT, miniac7--- via Spridgets 
&lt;spridgets@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; 
color: #000000;">I have more questions than answers right now:</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; 
color: #000000;">... Was this tank ever sealed with a chemical fuel tank 
sealer?</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; 
color: #000000;">... How does the fuel filter look?</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; 
color: #000000;">... Have you tried running the engine with the fuel tank cap 
removed?</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; 
color: #000000;">Howard Collins</span></div>
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In a message dated 7/22/2020 10:46:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, <a 
href="mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target="_blank" rel="noopener 
noreferrer">spridgets@autox.team.net</a> writes:
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<div>Alrighty then! ( Ace Ventura moment!)</div>
<div>I am smelling a rat in the fuel delivery system not the carb!</div>
<div>First is your fuel pump set up at the tank or in the engine 
compartment?&nbsp; &nbsp;That's a beginning.&nbsp; &nbsp;Pumps seem to like 
being close to the tank pushing fuel as opposed to being well away from the 
tank and pulling fuel.<br> </div>
<div>These fuel tanks have a fixed pick up tube in them that can be a real pain 
in the posterior if anything has obstructed the tube , end of the tube rusted 
off or a tank sealer applied and glued the tube shut or tank sealer applied 
wrong &amp; peeling off , clogging the pickup tube.&nbsp; &nbsp;Another fun one 
( happened to my car early in my ownership!) Is the lost has cap , rag stuffed 
in the filler neck and OOPS , rag ended up in the tank!&nbsp; &nbsp;Does 
nothing initially but eventually the electric pump sucked the tag against th e 
pickup tube , and sediment fouled the rag and it acted like a blocked fuel 
filter.&nbsp; Started , ran for a bit and would quit...&nbsp; That drove me 
crazy until I dropped the tank , pulled the sending unit and looks into the 
tank !&nbsp; <br></div>
<div>Mike somewhere you have a restriction keeping your fuel from freely 
flowing from the pickup in the tank to feed your pump.&nbsp; &nbsp;Possibly an 
internally collapsing rubber fuel line connecting pump to tank?&nbsp; 
&nbsp;This ethanol fuel has done some rather odd stuff to rubber components 
over time.<br> </div>
<div>Just some thoughts which might point you in a direction of discovering 
what is wrong.</div>
<div>Chuck</div>
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