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Re: [Spridgets] Aluminum Radiators

To: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aluminum Radiators
From: crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 16:20:44 -0400
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Ok after reading all the responses I have 1 HUGE question!! ONE!   HOW OLD is 
your fan belt ( read that hardened ones time which can slip) AND.... how right 
or loose is your belt?They slip against engine torque and against water 
resistance in the engine.  If your coolant is not circulating at the correct 
rate , it builds heat rather than dissipates it.   Also remember a 50/50 
mixture of coolant & water is the professed best heat exchange ratio for a 
normal cooling system.   Ok fellow racers I know restrictions on antifreeze 
in race cars on race tracks..A simple test on the belt is grab the fan ( of 
course not running!   33 stitches at Summit piont a few years ago 
...aw..never mind!) and rock the fan both ways.  Does it slip at all?  Even 
then retension your fan belt and go for a drive and see how hot it runs.   If 
it still runs hot , water pump impeller , improper opening thermostat or a 
restriction in the radiator are all possible.  But!  If it worked at 1 time 
there must be a fly in the ointment!  Do not just throw money at it until you 
diagnose it.   If you have acess to an infrared thermometer....read radiator 
core temperatures when hot and check top & bottom radiator hose temperatures 
AND CHECK the temperature of the thermostat housing!   Make notes on what is 
hot or cooler and you might find something wrong with circulation.Honestly I 
have no idea what I'm saying....but it crazy enough ... It just might 
work....Chuck!It's be kind to virgins month so DO NOT throw a virgin into a 
volcano!!!   LOL!Sent from my LG Mobile------ Original message------From: 
Michael MacLean via SpridgetsDate: Mon, Apr 26, 2021 12:35 PMTo: 
spridgets@autox.team.net;Cc: Subject:[Spridgets] Aluminum Radiators     My 
Bugeye has been running hot in any ambient temperature over 80 degrees 
lately.  I have the original radiator that was re-cored with an OEM type core 
almost 25 years ago.  I have been leaning towards getting an aluminum 
radiator.  Moss sells a two row aluminum radiator for $300.  You can get a 
Chinese made Bugeye type radiator on Fleabay for $165 with free shipping.  
Nevermind the fact Moss charges a $10 oversize fee on top of a shipping charge 
of $27 and then of course California has to get their cut ($24).  It adds 
up.       A call to Moss just now was not all that helpful.  I was told 
that all they know is their aluminum radiator comes from Moss Europe.  Other 
than that, they have no idea country of manufacture.  Since both radiators are 
just about the same in construction and core size I am not sure what to do 
here.  With Frank's words on Chinese made crap echoing in my head might I be 
better off getting my original radiator re-cored with an up to date core that 
will have more cooling fin area?  Do the aluminum radiators make that much 
difference?Mike MacLean

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    <div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div dir="auto">Ok after reading all the 
responses I have 1 HUGE question!! ONE!&nbsp; &nbsp;HOW OLD is your fan belt ( 
read that hardened ones time which can slip) AND.... how right or loose is your 
belt?</div><div dir="auto">They slip against engine torque and against water 
resistance in the engine.&nbsp; If your coolant is not circulating at the 
correct rate , it builds heat rather than dissipates it.&nbsp; &nbsp;</div><div 
dir="auto">Also remember a 50/50 mixture of coolant &amp; water is the 
professed best heat exchange ratio for a normal cooling system.&nbsp; 
&nbsp;</div><div dir="auto">Ok fellow racers I know restrictions on antifreeze 
in race cars on race tracks..</div><div dir="auto">A simple test on the belt is 
grab the fan ( of course not running!&nbsp; &nbsp;33 stitches at Summit piont a 
few years ago ...aw..never mind!) and rock the fan both ways.&nbsp; Does it 
slip at all?&nbsp; Even then retension your fan belt and go for a drive and see 
how hot it runs.&nbsp; &nbsp;If it still runs hot , water pump impeller , 
improper opening thermostat or a restriction in the radiator are all 
possible.&nbsp; But!&nbsp; If it worked at 1 time there must be a fly in the 
ointment!&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir="auto">Do not just throw money at it until 
you diagnose it.&nbsp; &nbsp;If you have acess to an infrared 
thermometer....read radiator core temperatures when hot and check top &amp; 
bottom radiator hose temperatures AND CHECK the temperature of the thermostat 
housing!&nbsp; &nbsp;Make notes on what is hot or cooler and you might find 
something wrong with circulation.</div><div dir="auto">Honestly I have no idea 
what I'm saying....but it crazy enough ... It just might work....</div><div 
dir="auto">Chuck!</div><div dir="auto">It's be kind to virgins month so DO NOT 
throw a virgin into a volcano!!!&nbsp; &nbsp;LOL!</div><div 
dir="auto"><br></div><div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:9pt;"><i>Sent from 
my LG Mobile</i></div></div></div><div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div 
id="LGEmailHeader" dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">------ 
Original message------</div><div dir="auto"><b>From: </b>Michael MacLean via 
Spridgets<spridgets@autox.team.net></spridgets@autox.team.net></div><div 
dir="auto"><b>Date: </b>Mon, Apr 26, 2021 12:35 PM</div><div dir="auto"><b>To: 
</b><a 
href="mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.net</a>;</div><div 
dir="auto"><b>Cc: </b></div><div dir="auto"><b>Subject:</b>[Spridgets] Aluminum 
Radiators</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div dir="auto">&nbsp; &nbsp; 
&nbsp;My Bugeye has been running hot in any ambient temperature over 80 degrees 
lately.&nbsp; I have the original radiator that was re-cored with an OEM type 
core almost 25 years ago.&nbsp; I have been leaning towards getting an aluminum 
radiator.&nbsp; Moss sells a two row aluminum radiator for $300.&nbsp; You can 
get a Chinese made Bugeye type radiator on Fleabay for $165 with free 
shipping.&nbsp; Nevermind the fact Moss charges a $10 oversize fee on top of a 
shipping charge of $27 and then of course California has to get their cut 
($24).&nbsp; It adds up.&nbsp;&nbsp;<div dir="auto">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;A call 
to Moss just now was not all that helpful.&nbsp; I was told that all they know 
is their aluminum radiator comes from Moss Europe.&nbsp; Other than that, they 
have no idea country of manufacture.&nbsp; Since both radiators are just about 
the same in construction and core size I am not sure what to do here.&nbsp; 
With Frank's words on Chinese made crap echoing in my head might I be better 
off getting my original radiator re-cored with an up to date core that will 
have more cooling fin area?&nbsp; Do the aluminum radiators make that much 
difference?</div><div dir="auto">Mike MacLean</div></div>
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