Re: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information

[Stu <sabre2tgr@gmail.com>]

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For Allan:  TBON lists 4 dealers in Atlanta, three of which allegedly
carried Sunbeam products.

In the list of dealers for Massachusetts, there is also a "Boston
Warehouse" mentioned.  The address is on a pier at the waterfront, what
today is the Black Falcon cruise terminal.  So it appears that Boston was
also a POE for Rootes products.  Odd, since I don't see any other mention
of a warehouse in other likely ports, NY, Baltimore, Savannah, Long Beach,
San Francisco, etc.

Also odd, there are three pages of dealer listings for California, but
almost 5 pages of dealer listings for the NY/NJ area.  Yet according to the
cited statistic, most of the Tigers went west.

Stu

On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 8:41 PM Allan Ballard <aballard@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for this very interesting commentary.
>
> I=E2=80=99ve always wondered how Sunbeam distribution across the country =
took
> place.  My Mk1a is
> An Oklahoma car for example.
>
> Here in Atlanta there were only a few Tigers on the streets in the 60=E2=
=80=99s. I
> don=E2=80=99t know if there
> Was a dealership or not. Used Tigers and Alpines were sold out of the
> Atlanta newspaper=E2=80=99s classified
> ads for =E2=80=9CBritish cars.=E2=80=9D
>
> That=E2=80=99s where I found my first Tiger, a Midnight Blue Mk1.
>
> I recall reading about MkII=E2=80=99s but seeing just one. I=E2=80=99ve c=
ome to appreciate
> MkII styling
> But back in the day the absence of side =E2=80=9Cstripe=E2=80=9D left me =
skeptical.
>
> Allan Ballard
> -Atlanta
>
> On Aug 23, 2022, at 2:07 PM, GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net> wrote=
:
>
> For sure they came into the port at LA(Long Beach?).
>
> The 80% (I think) is just a number out of his A$$...
> He was back east or Canada, he didn't get one new, just many years later
> (I think).
> The hot rod scene was California and the weather definetly favors a
> convertible.
>
> But he was right, most came to the west coast due to demand.  That is why
> you
> see more MK2s back east, by the time they came out, everyone in the west
> already
> had a MK1  with a 289 (info from the late Paul Reisentz).
> Gary
>
> On 08/23/2022 10:47 AM steve wick via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> I don't have definitive information, but the cars could have been all
> delivered to east coast ports, then transported from there. Where they
> would have been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the
> network were located.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Brian Glenn
> via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2022 9:58 PM
> *To:* Tigers Den <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information
>
> All,
> I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article *What is a Sunbeam Tiger?*
> listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.
> In it, he states "While about 80% of the original Tiger sales were
> located on the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide."
> While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had
> never heard it quantified.
> Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail
> outlet distribution.
>
> Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was obtained?
> Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation on
> ports of entry and retail distribution?
> Thanks in advance.
> Cheers
> B
>
> Brian Glenn
> P.O. Box 578
> Julian, CA 92036-0578
> 714.345.9883
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">For=
 Allan:=C2=A0 TBON lists 4 dealers in Atlanta, three of which allegedly car=
ried Sunbeam products.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size=
:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">In=
 the list of dealers for Massachusetts, there is also a &quot;Boston Wareho=
use&quot; mentioned.=C2=A0 The address is on a pier at the waterfront, what=
 today is the Black Falcon cruise terminal.=C2=A0 So it appears that Boston=
 was also a POE for Rootes products.=C2=A0 Odd, since I don&#39;t see any o=
ther mention of a warehouse in other likely ports, NY, Baltimore, Savannah,=
 Long Beach, San Francisco, etc.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size=
:small">Also odd, there are three pages of dealer listings for California, =
but almost 5 pages of dealer listings for the NY/NJ area.=C2=A0 Yet accordi=
ng to the cited statistic, most of the Tigers went west.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Stu</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 23, 2022=
 at 8:41 PM Allan Ballard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com";>aba=
llard@ix.netcom.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">Thanks for thi=
s very interesting commentary.<div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99ve always wonde=
red how Sunbeam distribution across the country took place.=C2=A0 My Mk1a i=
s</div><div>An Oklahoma car for example.</div><div><br></div><div>Here in A=
tlanta there were only a few Tigers on the streets in the 60=E2=80=99s. I d=
on=E2=80=99t know if there</div><div>Was a dealership or not. Used Tigers a=
nd Alpines were sold out of the Atlanta newspaper=E2=80=99s classified</div=
><div>ads for =E2=80=9CBritish cars.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><di=
v>That=E2=80=99s where I found my first Tiger, a Midnight Blue Mk1.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>I recall reading about MkII=E2=80=99s but seeing just one=
. I=E2=80=99ve come to appreciate MkII styling</div><div>But back in the da=
y the absence of side =E2=80=9Cstripe=E2=80=9D left me skeptical.</div><div=
><br></div><div>Allan Ballard</div><div>-Atlanta</div><div><div><br><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><div>On Aug 23, 2022, at 2:07 PM, GARY WINBLAD &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">garywinblad@comcast=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div>

 =20
  =20
=20
 <div>
  <div>
   For sure they came into the port at LA(Long Beach?).
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   The 80% (I think) is just a number out of his A$$...
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   He was back east or Canada, he didn&#39;t get one new, just many years l=
ater (I think).
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   The hot rod scene was California and the weather definetly favors a conv=
ertible.
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   But he was right, most came to the west coast due to demand.=C2=A0 That =
is why you=20
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   see more MK2s back east, by the time they came out, everyone in the west=
 already
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   had a MK1=C2=A0 with a 289 (info from the late Paul Reisentz).
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   Gary
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   <br>
  </div>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
   <div>
    On 08/23/2022 10:47 AM steve wick via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tige=
rs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
   </div>
   <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
    I don&#39;t have definitive information, but the cars could have been a=
ll delivered to east coast ports, then transported from there. Where they w=
ould have been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the network=
 were located.
   </div>
   <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
    <br>
   </div>
   <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
    Steve
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    <span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>F=
rom:</strong> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Brian G=
lenn via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, August =
22, 2022 9:58 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Tigers Den &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:t=
igers@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><s=
trong>Subject:</strong> [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Inf=
ormation</span>
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    <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:16px">
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      All,
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article <em>What is a Sunbeam =
Tiger?</em> listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazi=
ne.
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      In it, he states &quot;<span style=3D"color:rgb(10,10,10);font-family=
:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:justify">While about 80% of the orig=
inal Tiger sales were located on the west coast, ownership opportunities no=
w exist nationwide.</span>&quot;
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I h=
ad never heard it quantified.
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retai=
l outlet distribution.
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      <br>
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was obtained?
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentatio=
n on ports of entry and retail distribution?
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Thanks in advance.
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Cheers
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      B
     </div>
     <div>
      <br>
     </div>
     <div>
      Brian Glenn
      <br>P.O. Box 578
      <br>Julian, CA 92036-0578
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