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Allan

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According to TBON there were 2 Hillman and Sunbeam dealers a Service =
Dealer and a Singer dealer in Atlanta

Import Motors Ltd

Lander Auto Parts Inc.

Buckhead Foreign Car Center Inc. =E2=80=93 Service Dealer

Southeastern Sports Car Center Inc. =E2=80=93 Singer Dealer

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West coast executive offices

LA and San Francisco

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East coast offices

Long Island City and New York City

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I believe most of the MK IIs had to be shipped to Canada for some =
technicality. (?)

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Ron Fraser

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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2022 5:07 PM
To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net>; Tiger List List =
<tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information

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Thanks for this very interesting commentary.

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I=E2=80=99ve always wondered how Sunbeam distribution across the country =
took place.  My Mk1a is

An Oklahoma car for example.

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Here in Atlanta there were only a few Tigers on the streets in the =
60=E2=80=99s. I don=E2=80=99t know if there

Was a dealership or not. Used Tigers and Alpines were sold out of the =
Atlanta newspaper=E2=80=99s classified

ads for =E2=80=9CBritish cars.=E2=80=9D=20

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That=E2=80=99s where I found my first Tiger, a Midnight Blue Mk1.

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I recall reading about MkII=E2=80=99s but seeing just one. I=E2=80=99ve =
come to appreciate MkII styling

But back in the day the absence of side =E2=80=9Cstripe=E2=80=9D left me =
skeptical.

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Allan Ballard

-Atlanta





On Aug 23, 2022, at 2:07 PM, GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net =

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For sure they came into the port at LA(Long Beach?).=20

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The 80% (I think) is just a number out of his A$$...=20

He was back east or Canada, he didn't get one new, just many years later =
(I think).=20

The hot rod scene was California and the weather definetly favors a =
convertible.=20

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But he was right, most came to the west coast due to demand.  That is =
why you=20

see more MK2s back east, by the time they came out, everyone in the west =
already=20

had a MK1  with a 289 (info from the late Paul Reisentz).=20

Gary=20

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On 08/23/2022 10:47 AM steve wick via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net =

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I don't have definitive information, but the cars could have been all =
delivered to east coast ports, then transported from there. Where they =
would have been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the =
network were located.=20

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Steve=20

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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 9:58 PM
Subject: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information=20

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All,=20

I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article What is a Sunbeam Tiger? =
listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.=20

In it, he states "While about 80% of the original Tiger sales were =
located on the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist =
nationwide."=20

While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had =
never heard it quantified.=20

Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail =
outlet distribution.=20

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Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was obtained?=20

Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation =
on ports of entry and retail distribution?=20

Thanks in advance.=20

Cheers=20

B=20

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Brian Glenn=20
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Allan<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>According to =
TBON there were 2 Hillman and Sunbeam dealers a Service Dealer and a =
Singer dealer in Atlanta<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Import =
Motors Ltd<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Lander Auto Parts =
Inc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Buckhead Foreign Car Center Inc. =
=E2=80=93 Service Dealer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Southeastern =
Sports Car Center Inc. =E2=80=93 Singer Dealer<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>West coast =
executive offices<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>LA and San =
Francisco<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>East coast offices<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Long Island City and New York City<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I believe =
most of the MK IIs had to be shipped to Canada for some technicality. =
(?)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan =
Ballard<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 23, 2022 5:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
GARY WINBLAD &lt;garywinblad@comcast.net&gt;; Tiger List List =
&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Original =
Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks for =
this very interesting commentary.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99ve always wondered how Sunbeam distribution =
across the country took place. &nbsp;My Mk1a =
is<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>An Oklahoma car for =
example.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Here in Atlanta there were only a few Tigers on the =
streets in the 60=E2=80=99s. I don=E2=80=99t know if =
there<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Was a dealership or =
not. Used Tigers and Alpines were sold out of the Atlanta =
newspaper=E2=80=99s classified<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>ads for =E2=80=9CBritish =
cars.=E2=80=9D&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>That=E2=80=99s where I found my first Tiger, a =
Midnight Blue Mk1.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
recall reading about MkII=E2=80=99s but seeing just one. I=E2=80=99ve =
come to appreciate MkII styling<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>But back in the day the absence of side =
=E2=80=9Cstripe=E2=80=9D left me skeptical.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Allan Ballard<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-Atlanta<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Aug 23, 2022, at 2:07 PM, GARY WINBLAD &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net";>garywinblad@comcast.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>For sure they came into the port at LA(Long Beach?). =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The 80% (I think) is just a number out of his A$$... =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>He was back east or =
Canada, he didn't get one new, just many years later (I think). =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The hot rod scene was =
California and the weather definetly favors a convertible. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>But he was right, most came to the west coast due to =
demand.&nbsp; That is why you <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>see more MK2s back east, by the time they came out, =
everyone in the west already <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>had a MK1&nbsp; with a 289 (info from the late Paul =
Reisentz). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Gary =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 08/23/2022 10:47 AM steve wick via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I don't have =
definitive information, but the cars could have been all delivered to =
east coast ports, then transported from there. Where they would have =
been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the network were =
located. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Steve =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3D"signature_bookmark"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div id=3Dappendonsend><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div =
class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><hr =
size=3D2 width=3D"98%" align=3Dcenter></div><div id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></strong> Tigers =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>&gt; on behalf of Brian Glenn via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><s=
trong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></strong> Monday, =
August 22, 2022 9:58 PM<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To:</span></strong> Tigers =
Den &lt;<a =
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trong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></strong> =
[Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'>All, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>I was reviewing =
a well researched 1995 article <em><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'>What is a Sunbeam Tiger?</span></em> listed on the STOA website =
by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>In it, he states =
&quot;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0A0A0A'>W=
hile about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located on the west =
coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>&quot; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>While I knew the =
majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had never heard it =
quantified. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>Our Tiger =
research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail outlet =
distribution. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>Does anyone know =
from where this 80% figure was obtained? =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>Does anyone have =
additional or contradictory information/documentation on ports of entry =
and retail distribution? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'>Thanks in advance. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'>Cheers <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'>B <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>Brian Glenn =
<br>P.O. Box 578 <br>Julian, CA 92036-0578 <br>714.345.9883 =
<br><br>B9470208LRXFE GT <br>B9471101LRXFE <br>B9472615LRXFE =
<br>B382000846LRXFE <br>B382001212LRXFE =
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