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Re: Electric Cooling Fans

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Subject: Re: Electric Cooling Fans
From: Odd Hedberg <odd@triumphclub.se>
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 20:31:45 +0200
Cc: odd.hedberg@bigfoot.com
Dear Friends,
I just feel it is time to toss in my two pence [that's öre over here]
worth of knowledge into this thread...

Some of You have been talking about the instance that a radiator 
is too small for its purpose and that adding an electric (shrouded 
or unshrouded) fan will not solve the problems with a hot engine on 
a hot day.

Well, I must disagree, friends. I think, no I know it should do...
I'm working in a part of the industry some of You might disagree 
with, where we've got lots of different heat exchangers and where 
we dump around 70% of our energy input into the sea and put the 
remaining 30% to use... So I imagine You all do understand that we 
do whatever possible to better those figures... ;-)

> [No it's not the military... But I doo think the figures could 
> well be them... I leave that part of business to our beloved TCS 
> President, Lt Sewe Lindberg.]

Sometimes we run into the problem that it is not possible to change 
the physical dimensions of a heat exchanger, but we do need to have 
it transfer more energy "from one side of the wall to the other"...
Well what do we do then? We increase the flow of the colder media 
through the exchanger per time unit. Simple... And the principle is 
the same irrespective of what the media is; a liquid or a gas... 
[So far no one has invented a solid media heat exchanger...  ;-) ] 
It costs us more energy in pumping effort but it does what we intended 
to do: increase the exchange of heat in a given exchanger design...

The same principle is fact when it comes to an undersized auto
radiator... If it is to transfer more heat away from the engine 
cooling system one needs to increase the amount of air passing 
through the radiator per time unit. The standard engine driven 
fan is a fixed part of this calculation, since it only does what 
it is designed to do; pull a given amount of air through the 
radiator per revolution, and the amount of revolutions per given 
time unit is relative to the engine revolutions [and the exchange 
factor given by the pulley diameters if it is not driven directly 
off the crankpulley]. At idle or in slow speed traffic the fan pulls
less air than what is needed if the engine goes hot. 
What can be done in such a case [Assuming a change to a bigger or
more efficient radiator is out of the question.] is to increase the 
airflow. A good way is to fit an electric, thermostat operated, 
additional fan. A puller is to prefer [it disrupts the airflow ahead 
of the radiator less] but a pusher is OK [if a puller is impossible 
to fit together with the ordinary engine driven fan] since the 
difference is only some 10 - 30% efficiency. The extra fan will help 
the ordinary one [given that the fans don't work over the same area 
of the radiator] to increase airflow _per time unit_ when it cuts in. 
And the given radiator will dissipate more heat energy into the air- 
stream, cooling the engine more...

On the question of removing the ordinary fan and only use an electric
one we are leaving my professional familiaritys with this, but there
must be some good and simple reason most modern cars have electric 
fans instead of engine driven ones. Remember, an electric motor and 
the rest of the setup is much more expensive to the manufacturer than 
a simple fan bolted to a pulley... 
So I guess the motoring industry have already answered our question, 
which is best/most effective etc.  No question about it, it is the 
electric one since for one it doesn't work when it is not needed and 
do work when it is needed. The exact contrary to the engine driven 
mechanical fan who flows lots of air [when the vehicle are at speed] 
when it is not needed and nearly no air at all [during an idling 
standstill] when it is needed the most...  ;-( 
The mechanical one also increases the mass that needs to be accelerated 
when revving up the engine...

[My Spit is going to get a puller when it goes out of hibernation, 
and (sadly) the original [option aluminium] one will have to go to 
give room for it.]

Your Odd one...

What part of the industry, You ask?
A nuclear power plant...  1206MW generator...  Boiling water reactor...


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Odd Hedberg
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