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RE: Please HELP with brake bleeding problem

To: "'Dave Massey'" <105671.471@compuserve.com>
Subject: RE: Please HELP with brake bleeding problem
From: "R. Ashford Little II" <ralittle2@mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:41:30 -0500
Cc: "'Randall Young'" <ryoung@navcomtech.com>, "'Triumphs@autox. Net'" <Triumphs@autox.team.net>, "'[unknown]'" <owner-6pack@autox.team.net>
OK, I am getting somewhere, but I need a bit of confirmation on what
I've heard.  I've spoken with Dave @ TRF and Apple Hydraulics and they
told me the following.

1.  Apple:  the brake master draws 90% of it's fluid from the rear
portion of the reservoir (front brake area) so it's not unusual that I'm
not depleting the front reservoir area even by bleeding the rear brakes.

TRF: didn't mention this and he thought that I since the front and back
brakes are totally separate then this should not be the case.

2.  Both companies mentioned the PDWA as a likely culprit.  Not that it
was bad, but that the mere bleeding of brakes can cause the piston in
the PDWA to go off center.  If so then this is a possible reason for not
drawing fluid from the front portion of the reservoir.

Question:  I noticed that the wire that is supposed to be running from
the PDWA switch to my dashboard is not hooked up.  I see no wire that is
left unconnected.  Is this wire part of the wiring harness or is it a
single wire that I could order and hook up?

Thanks and I would appreciate any feedback.

R. Ashford Little II
www.geocities.com/ralittle2


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Massey [mailto:105671.471@compuserve.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 1:33 PM
To: R. Ashford Little II
Cc: 'Randall Young'; Triumphs@autox. Net; [unknown]
Subject: RE: Please HELP with brake bleeding problem

Message text written by "R. Ashford Little II"
>I'm glad you brought that up, I did do that last night and much to my
surprise no fluid came out.  Figures, since I had a towel in place.  Why
would I not have fluid flowing out of that hole?

R. Ashford Little II
www.geocities.com/ralittle2


-----Original Message-----
From: Randall Young [mailto:ryoung@navcomtech.com] 

>My next step would be to try loosening a nipple right at the MC (which
>of
>course is going to make a mess, so a coffee can and a rag are in
order).
>If
>the fluid still comes from the wrong reservoir, IMO it's time to pull
>the MC
>off, and apart.
>
>Randall
<

Randall brings up a good point.  Since the master cylinder probably
hasn't
had any service in 25 years, it may be due for new bits.  And since you
are
replacing hoses, it might be a good time to let shipwright's desease run
it's course.  Rebuilt calipers and new rear wheel cylinders will
complete
the package and I can not stress how important your brakes are.  

This is also a good time to service the rear brake adjusters.  Carefully
remove the nuts securing them to the back plates.  Use rust buster oil
if
necessary.  Then remove the adjusting bolt by screwing it completely
into
the housing and right through.  Then clean up all the parts, lub with
lithium grease and reassemble.  Adjusting the rear brakes after this
will
be a pleasure.

In its day, the TR6 was noted for having good brakes.  It takes a little
maintenence to keep them that way.

Cheers

Dave

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