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Re: [TR] Alternator?

To: <ptegler@verizon.net>, "'Dean Mericas'" <dmericas@austin.rr.com>, <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator?
From: "Joe Curry" <spitlist@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 16:45:05 -0700
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Anybody considering this alternator would do well to check out this link.

 

http://www.tucsonalternator.com/PartDetails.aspx?IDNum=43217

 

Joe

 

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From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ptegler
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 4:42 PM
To: Dean Mericas; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator?

 

Consider a Bosch Alternator...uses t he original Lucas 3 pin connector and
has the mount ears i nthe correct clocked positions!
an example
 
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR6-TR8-TR250-SPITFIRE-Alternator-Generator
-Bosch-55-Amp-/281799771057>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR6-TR8-TR250-SPITFIRE-Alternator-Generator-
Bosch-55-Amp-/281799771057

ptegler

On 11/11/2015 3:27 PM, Dean Mericas wrote:

Ten or 12 years ago I put together a conversion kit based on various
instructions I found on the web. Do a search on "Replacing generator with a
GM alternator in a Triumph" and you'll find several variations of how to
accomplish the job.

The key components are a Delco 10Si alternator (used on roughly a billion GM
products and available anywhere) and a wide pulley that I got from an
agricultural machinery supplier. The alternator required some trimming of
the mounting boss to get the belt alignment right, but its very simple. I
directly wired the alternator output to the battery via a heavy duty fuse
hidden inside the gutted voltage regulator case to avoid any issues with
stressing out the wiring harness. I also recall installing a resistor in
parallel on the generator light to get the alternator to kick in at a lower
RPM. 

It works great and is completely reversible if a future owner ever wants to
experience life with a 19 amp generator.

Good luck.

Dean
1964 TR4 / 1963 Mk2 3.8 / 1974 2000GTV

triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote:

Message: 5
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:14:27 -0500
<net@newenglandtriumphs.org>, TR3 Triumphs
Subject: [TR] Alternator?
Message-ID:
 
<CAJ1eQwgXP4sskxUg-FSqPS9ZTMe-AWVPbyjZTFRgAV5vDxPkpQ@mail.gmail.com>
 
Hey all ~
 
I know we've been down this road numbers of times but I was wondering if,
among those who have converted to the use of an alternator, is there a
model
someone can recommend? Since some folks ask *why*, I anticipate adding
electrical loads with various electrical needs and yes, I'd like to
consider
use of LED headlamps. Seems like the Moss conversion kit (130-058) is
somewhat pricey, being north of $300.
 
http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=%20107952
 
Thanks!
 
Dave Friedlander







 
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would
do well to check out this link.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href=3D"http://www.tucsonalternator.com/PartDetails.aspx?IDNum=3D43217";>h=
ttp://www.tucsonalternator.com/PartDetails.aspx?IDNum=3D43217</a><o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] =
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>ptegler<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November =
11, 2015
4:42 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Dean Mericas;
triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [TR] =
Alternator?</span></font><font
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Consider a =
Bosch
Alternator...uses t he original Lucas 3 pin connector and has the mount =
ears i
nthe correct clocked positions!<br>
an example<br>
<a
href=3D"http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR6-TR8-TR250-SPITFIRE-Alternator=
-Generator-Bosch-55-Amp-/281799771057"></a><a
href=3D"http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR6-TR8-TR250-SPITFIRE-Alternator=
-Generator-Bosch-55-Amp-/281799771057">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR=
6-TR8-TR250-SPITFIRE-Alternator-Generator-Bosch-55-Amp-/281799771057</a><=
br>
<br>
ptegler<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On 11/11/2015 3:27 PM, Dean Mericas =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'
cite=3D"mid:5643A4B1.5020703@austin.rr.com" type=3Dcite>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Ten or 12 =
years ago I put
together a conversion kit based on various instructions I found on the =
web. Do
a search on &quot;Replacing generator with a GM alternator in a =
Triumph&quot;
and you'll find several variations of how to accomplish the job.<br>
<br>
The key components are a Delco 10Si alternator (used on roughly a =
billion GM
products and available anywhere) and a wide pulley that I got from an
agricultural machinery supplier. The alternator required some trimming =
of the
mounting boss to get the belt alignment right, but its very simple. I =
directly
wired the alternator output to the battery via a heavy duty fuse hidden =
inside
the gutted voltage regulator case to avoid any issues with stressing out =
the
wiring harness. I also recall installing a resistor in parallel on the
generator light to get the alternator to kick in at a lower RPM. <br>
<br>
It works great and is completely reversible if a future owner ever wants =
to
experience life with a 19 amp generator.<br>
<br>
Good luck.<br>
<br>
Dean<br>
1964 TR4 / 1963 Mk2 3.8 / 1974 2000GTV<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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moz-do-not-send=3Dtrue></a><a
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face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Date: Wed, 11 Nov =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>From: <st1:PersonName
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moz-do-not-send=3Dtrue>&lt;forzion7@gmail.com&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></span></=
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~<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>I know we've been down this road numbers of =
times but I was wondering if,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>among those who have converted to the use of =
an alternator, is there a<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>model<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font=

size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>someone can recommend? Since some folks ask =
<span
class=3Dmoz-txt-tag><b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>*</span></b></span><b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>why<span =
class=3Dmoz-txt-tag>*</span></span></b>, I anticipate =
adding<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>electrical loads with various electrical =
needs and yes, I'd like to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>consider<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><f=
ont
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>use of LED headlamps. Seems like the Moss =
conversion kit (130-058) is<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>somewhat pricey, being north of =
$300.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
t
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><a
href=3D"http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D%=
20107952"
moz-do-not-send=3Dtrue>http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?P=
lateIndexID=3D%20107952</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fo=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Dave =
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