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Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph
From: Harold Sawatsky <hsawatsk@sasktel.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 19:06:36 -0600
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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Luckily (at least so far) my kids love the old man :) My son that is most ca=
pable actually really likes the 3. Everyone is really looking forward to get=
ting in and taking a turn driving the relic. Way too much of completing the r=
estoration is in my head so we better finish up soon cause ya never know !!!=
 Trust me, it's all fun. Great experience with all the kids and grandkids. Y=
ou guys should all enjoy these antiques and pass on as much as you can to th=
e next generation.=20

> On Dec 18, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Harold,
> You need buy another couple of Triumphs to keep them all happy.
>=20
> I have another twist which came from the trust lawyer. Just because you li=
ke something, don't hand it down your kids They will hate you. I have  Stag a=
nd working on another. I cant see traits in neither of my boys (16 and 11 ye=
ars)   working on cars. The Stag runs OK, but I'm on top of it.=20
>=20
> Sujit
>=20
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM Harold Sawatsky <hsawatsk@sasktel.net> wr=
ote:
>> Lots of important questions. I have 3 kids that all wanted the small mout=
h 3. Daughter and 2 sons. I have done a frame up and restoring it back to fa=
ctory (still working on it but getting there). I have footed the bill for al=
l parts and most will know it=E2=80=99s not cheap. Whoever gets it will driv=
e it the way I did. Not a big deal at all. Live in Canada and drove it all o=
ver the western US as far as Mexico. A great experience.
>>=20
>> Choice of who will get it came down to a few factors. Oldest son wanted i=
t because he is the oldest. Unfortunately not mechanically inclined but had n=
o problem getting his hands dirty. Daughter really wanted it because she=E2=80=
=99s my daughter. Have to say I made her take the head off her 1st car to ge=
t a valve job done and do oil changes but I was there to help. Great reason b=
ut if something happened it would sit. Youngest son wants it AND he has help=
ed in the tear down and the rebuild. He=E2=80=99s a white collar worker but m=
echanically inclined. Not afraid to work on it and get er done. He=E2=80=99s=
 offered to help paying for the body work. He=E2=80=99s the logical choice. W=
as always a bit concerned what the others would say but they both understand=
 completely. Was never a choice to sell it and split the money. Family heirl=
oom.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> My 2 cents
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave=

>> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 10:37 AM
>> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> All good advice.   But i think the most important question has not been a=
sked.  =20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> If she really really wants this car,  what you are doing is quite wonderf=
ul.   However,  if she is not prepared for sidescreens, a top that is diffic=
ult to put up,  no power anything, i question whether this is a gift or a bu=
rden.   I know that my daughter, who is 28, would not like this gift.   She h=
ad grown up around these cars, and has some understanding of what ownership m=
eans.   She is very much on board with inheriting my 350z convertible,  manu=
al shift.=20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Just my 2 cents
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> -------- Original message --------
>>=20
>> From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <tjwakeman@gmail.com>
>>=20
>> Date: 12/16/18 8:24 AM (GMT-06:00)
>>=20
>> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
>>=20
>> Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> This thread is getting silly. Just bring a car to original factory spec=20=

>> with all the parts in spec then have it professionally serviced per the=20=

>> factory manual. They were considered dependable drivers when new and=20
>> many that have problems today experience what happens from worn parts=20
>> and delayed maintenance.
>>=20
>> TeriAnn
>>=20
>>=20
>> > On 12/15/18, Lawarence Schwartz <L1j1s@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> In addition to Andrew=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s  suggestion, one can co=
nsider the following a
>> >> alternator, pertronix, electric fan and a Dan Masters wiring system. L=
arry
>> >> Schwartz
>> >>
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> Sujit Roy
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div></div><div>Luckily (at least so far) m=
y kids love the old man :) My son that is most capable actually really likes=
 the 3. Everyone is really looking forward to getting in and taking a turn d=
riving the relic. Way too much of completing the restoration is in my head s=
o we better finish up soon cause ya never know !!! Trust me, it's all fun. G=
reat experience with all the kids and grandkids. You guys should all enjoy t=
hese antiques and pass on as much as you can to the next generation.&nbsp;</=
div><div><br>On Dec 18, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr=
iumphstag@gmail.com">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Harold,<div>You need buy another c=
ouple of Triumphs to keep them all happy.</div><div><br></div><div>I have an=
other twist which came from the trust lawyer. Just because you like somethin=
g, don't hand it down your kids They will hate you. I have&nbsp; Stag and wo=
rking on another. I cant see traits in neither of my boys (16 and 11 years)&=
nbsp; &nbsp;working on cars. The Stag runs OK, but I'm on top&nbsp;of it.&nb=
sp;</div><div><br></div><div>Sujit</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM Harold Sawatsky &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:hsawatsk@sasktel.net";>hsawatsk@sasktel.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div=
 class=3D"gmail-m_-3883146468145062672WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,=
125)">Lots of important questions. I have 3 kids that all wanted the small m=
outh 3. Daughter and 2 sons. I have done a frame up and restoring it back to=
 factory (still working on it but getting there). I have footed the bill for=
 all parts and most will know it=E2=80=99s not cheap. Whoever gets it will d=
rive it the way I did. Not a big deal at all. Live in Canada and drove it al=
l over the western US as far as Mexico. A great experience. <u></u><u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Ca=
libri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Choice of who will get it came down t=
o a few factors. Oldest son wanted it because he is the oldest. Unfortunatel=
y not mechanically inclined but had no problem getting his hands dirty. Daug=
hter really wanted it because she=E2=80=99s my daughter. Have to say I made h=
er take the head off her 1<sup>st</sup> car to get a valve job done and do o=
il changes but I was there to help. Great reason but if something happened i=
t would sit. Youngest son wants it AND he has helped in the tear down and th=
e rebuild. He=E2=80=99s a white collar worker but mechanically inclined. Not=
 afraid to work on it and get er done. He=E2=80=99s offered to help paying f=
or the body work. He=E2=80=99s the logical choice. Was always a bit concerne=
d what the others would say but they both understand completely. Was never a=
 choice to sell it and split the money. Family heirloom.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibr=
i,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;col=
or:rgb(31,73,125)">My 2 cents<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,7=
3,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border-right:none;=
border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);pa=
dding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;f=
ont-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;=
font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-=
bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a=
>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dave<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 16, 2018 10:37 A=
M<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] The Gift of a Trium=
ph<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<=
u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">All good advice.&nbsp; &nbsp;But i think th=
e most important question has not been asked.&nbsp; &nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">If she really really wants this car,&nbsp; what you are doing is q=
uite wonderful.&nbsp; &nbsp;However,&nbsp; if she is not prepared for sidesc=
reens, a top that is difficult to put up,&nbsp; no power anything<span style=
=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">, i question whether this is a gift or a b=
urden.&nbsp; &nbsp;I know that my daughter, who is 28, would not like this g=
ift.&nbsp; &nbsp;She had grown up around these cars, and has some understand=
ing of what ownership means.&nbsp; &nbsp;She is very much on board with inhe=
riting my 350z convertible,&nbsp; manual shift.&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Just my 2 cen=
ts</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u=
></u></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">=
-------- Original message --------<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">tjwakeman@gmail.com=
</a>&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"color:black">Date: 12/16/18 8:24 AM (GMT-06:00) <u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">To: <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.n=
et</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:black">Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph <u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u>=
&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This thread is ge=
tting silly. Just bring a car to original factory spec <br>with all the part=
s in spec then have it professionally serviced per the <br>factory manual. T=
hey were considered dependable drivers when new and <br>many that have probl=
ems today experience what happens from worn parts <br>and delayed maintenanc=
e.<br><br>TeriAnn<br><br><br>&gt; On 12/15/18, Lawarence Schwartz &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:L1j1s@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">L1j1s@aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
>&gt;&gt; In addition to Andrew=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s&nbsp; suggestion, o=
ne can consider the following a<br>&gt;&gt; alternator, pertronix, electric f=
an and a Dan Masters wiring system. Larry<br>&gt;&gt; Schwartz<br>&gt;&gt;<b=
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