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Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph

To: Ken Gano <triumphs@consolidated.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph
From: Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>
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When I was getting my car on the road in 2013, after it had been sitting f=
or 20+ years, I bought it as a project, I wanted to upgrade what ever I co=
uld to make it more dependable. =C2=A0I'm enjoying seeing almost everythin=
g I did, be suggested. =C2=A0So, this is=C2=A0the list of what I did.=0A=0A=
- TR4A Head=0A- 87.5 Big Bore Kit=0A- Engine balanced=0A- Hastings Rings=0A=
- Viton Rear Main Crank Seal Conversion=0A- Wizard Racing Aluminum Radiato=
r=0A- Electric Fan=0A- Skinny Belt Pulleys=0A- Harmonic Balancer Pulley=0A=
- Rebuilt SU Carburetors=0A- Distributor Rebuilt by Advanced Distributors=0A=
- Petronix Points=0A- Lucas Alternator=0A- Hi Torque Starter Motor=0A- Neg=
ative ground conversion=0A- Spin-on oil filter conversion=0A- Optima Batte=
ry=0A- Hardi Electric Fuel Pump=0A- 9.2lb alloy flywheel (stock is 32 lbs)=
=0A- TR6 Clutch & Pressure Plate=0A- Rebuilt TR4 OD Transmission=0A- Rebui=
lt Rear Differential with taller gears=0A- Rebuilt Driveshaft=0A- Adjustab=
le Rear Racing Lever Shocks=0A- Rebuilt Gauges at Palo Alto Speedometer=0A=
- Miata seats=0A- Moto-Lita Steering Wheel=0A- 6 1/2" Panasport Wheels=0A-=
 205/60R15 Goodrich Tires=0A- 7/8=E2=80=9D front sway bar=0A=0ACurrently i=
t's kind of a rat-rod as it's painted flat=C2=A0black which does get a lot=
 of positive comments. I wanted to get all the mechanicals sorted before d=
ealing with paint. =C2=A0I'll be looking into this=C2=A0Dan Masters wiring=
 system too as my wiring is kind of a mess.=0A=0ARye=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AO=
n Dec 15, 2018, at 09:57 PM, Ken Gano <triumphs@consolidated.net> wrote:=0A=
=0A1. Electronic ignition =0A=0A2. Weber carbs. =0A=0A3. Advance Wire (Dan=
 Masters) wiring harness. =0A=0A4. Steel (or Panasport) wheels. (Not wire)=
. =0A=0A5. Gear reduced starter. =0A=0ASeveral other things come to mind, =
including an aluminum radiator, but those are the very first =E2=80=9Creli=
ability=E2=80=9D things I would consider. Basically, take away all of the =
subsystems that can go out of adjustment. =0A=0AKen Gano=0A=0ASent from my=
 iPad=0A=0AOn Dec 15, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@upric=
hard.net> wrote:=0A=0ASo many suggestions, but if the car is for a young l=
ady, a rack and pinion=0Aconversion would make steering soooo much easier.=
=0A=0AAndrew Uprichard=0AJackson, MIchigan=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=
=0AFrom: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ho=
yt=0ADuff=0ASent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 2:53 PM=0ATo: Triumph Mail L=
ist=0ASubject: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph=0A=0AI met a new friend today. H=
e owns a TR3 and has owned it for about 35=0Ayears, He did a restoration o=
n it a while back and talked to me about=0Adoing some maintenance on this =
treasure because he wants to give it=0Ato his daughter, who is graduating =
from college this spring.=0A=0AI reminded him that giving someone a TR3, e=
specially someone not=0Amechanical inclined, is not necessarily a gift of =
love.=0A=0AWe discussed some ways in which the TR3 could be a more reliabl=
e car=0Afor his daughter. It would not be her primary transportation, just=
=0Asomething to occasionally enjoy, but not become a maintenance burden=0A=
or morph into just another non-running TR3 laid up in someone's=0Agarage.=0A=
=0AIt is bone stock. I have a few ideas about what might be changed to=0Am=
ake it more suitable for a gift, but I'd appreciate some ideas from=0Athe =
list since what I would do for my TR# might be very different from=0Awhat =
might be best for this young TR3 owner.=0A=0A--=0AHoyt=0A** triumphs@autox=
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<html><body><div>When I was getting my car on the road in 2013, after it had 
been sitt=
ing for 20+ years, I bought it as a project, I wanted to upgrade what ever=
 I could to make it more dependable. &nbsp;I'm enjoying seeing almost ever=
ything I did, be suggested. &nbsp;So, this is&nbsp;the list of what I did.=
</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>- TR4A Head </div><div>- 87=
.5 Big Bore Kit </div><div>- Engine balanced </div><div>- Hastings Rings <=
/div><div>- Viton Rear Main Crank Seal Conversion<br></div><div>- Wizard R=
acing Aluminum Radiator </div><div>- Electric Fan<br>- Skinny Belt Pulleys=
 </div><div>- Harmonic Balancer Pulley </div><div>- Rebuilt SU Carburetors=
 </div><div>- Distributor Rebuilt by Advanced Distributors </div><div>- Pe=
tronix Points </div><div>- Lucas Alternator </div><div>- Hi Torque Starter=
 Motor </div><div>- Negative ground conversion<br></div><div>- Spin-on oil=
 filter conversion<br>- Optima Battery<br></div><div>- Hardi Electric Fuel=
 Pump </div><div>- 9.2lb alloy flywheel (stock is 32 lbs) </div><div>- TR6=
 Clutch &amp; Pressure Plate </div><div>- Rebuilt TR4 OD Transmission </di=
v><div>- Rebuilt Rear Differential with taller gears </div><div>- Rebuilt =
Driveshaft </div><div>- Adjustable Rear Racing Lever Shocks </div><div>- R=
ebuilt Gauges at Palo Alto Speedometer </div><div>- Miata seats </div><div=
>- Moto-Lita Steering Wheel </div><div>- 6 1/2" Panasport Wheels </div><di=
v>- 205/60R15 Goodrich Tires </div><div>- 7/8=E2=80=9D front sway bar</div=
><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div></div><div>Currently it's kind o=
f a rat-rod as it's painted flat&nbsp;black which does get a lot of positi=
ve comments. I wanted to get all the mechanicals sorted before dealing wit=
h paint. &nbsp;I'll be looking into this&nbsp;<span style=3D"color: #00000=
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rmal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:=
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ows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text=
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 float: none;">Dan Masters wiring system too as my wiring is kind of a mes=
s.</span></div><div><span style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText, =
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>Rye</span></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bog=
us=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=
=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br>On Dec 15, 2018,=
 at 09:57 PM, Ken Gano &lt;triumphs@consolidated.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></d=
iv><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"msg-quote"><div class=3D"_=
stretch"><span class=3D"body-text-content">1. Electronic ignition <br><br>=
2. Weber carbs. <br><br>3. Advance Wire (Dan Masters) wiring harness. <br>=
<br>4. Steel (or Panasport) wheels. (Not wire). <br><br>5. Gear reduced st=
arter. <br><br>Several other things come to mind, including an aluminum ra=
diator, but those are the very first =E2=80=9Creliability=E2=80=9D things =
I would consider. Basically, take away all of the subsystems that can go o=
ut of adjustment. <br><br>Ken Gano<br><br>Sent from my iPad<br><br><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:21 PM=
, Andrew Uprichard &lt;auprichard@uprichard.net&gt; wrote:</blockquote><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><block=
quote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">So many suggestions, but i=
f the car is for a young lady, a rack and pinion</blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">conversion would make steering so=
ooo much easier.</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-pla=
in-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-=
text">Andrew Uprichard</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quot=
ed-plain-text">Jackson, MIchigan</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" cla=
ss=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D=
"quoted-plain-text">-----Original Message-----</blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bou=
nces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Hoyt</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Duff</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 2:53 PM</blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">To: Triumph =
Mail List</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text=
">Subject: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite=
" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" c=
lass=3D"quoted-plain-text">I met a new friend today. He owns a TR3 and has=
 owned it for about 35</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quot=
ed-plain-text">years, He did a restoration on it a while back and talked t=
o me about</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-tex=
t">doing some maintenance on this treasure because he wants to give it</bl=
ockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">to his daug=
hter, who is graduating from college this spring.</blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">I reminded him that giving someone =
a TR3, especially someone not</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D=
"quoted-plain-text">mechanical inclined, is not necessarily a gift of love=
.</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></=
blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">We discus=
sed some ways in which the TR3 could be a more reliable car</blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">for his daughter. It w=
ould not be her primary transportation, just</blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">something to occasionally enjoy, but no=
t become a maintenance burden</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D=
"quoted-plain-text">or morph into just another non-running TR3 laid up in =
someone's</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text=
">garage.</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text=
"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">I=
t is bone stock. I have a few ideas about what might be changed to</blockq=
uote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">make it more su=
itable for a gift, but I'd appreciate some ideas from</blockquote><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">the list since what I would =
do for my TR# might be very different from</blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">what might be best for this young TR3 o=
wner.</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><b=
r></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">--</b=
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