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Re: [TR] MGA

To: Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] MGA
From: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 19:48:25 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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Hmmm.  So looking quickly other street cars of the time, a 1959 Porsche 356=
 A had a 1.6 liter engine; I don't know about the Porsche "speedster" or ev=
en if it was different, other than James Dean died in one.  The 1959 MGA ha=
d a 1.6 liter.  The Jaguar XK 150 had a 3.8 liter engine.  Karmann Ghia had=
 between a 1.1 and 1.3 liter engine.  As far as I can tell the Fiat 850 sta=
rted in 1964, with an engine a single strong man could seemingly lift.  The=
 Sunbeam Alpine was a 1.5 liter.  The Austin Martin DB4 was 3.7 liters.  Co=
uldn't quickly find the big Healeys four and six cylinder engines.  The Bug=
eye Sprite was a 0.948 liter; my sister called it her putt-putt.  Triumphs =
and Morgans, of course, ran the same 2 liter engine.


All this said, and certainly subject to any corrections you might have, I r=
emain unsure how Triumphs stacked up in races against these.  Anybody?


Terry

> On July 16, 2019 at 5:40 PM Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:
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>     110 mph in 4th OD is only 4500 rpm.  Not what I call =E2=80=9Ccrank s=
hattering rpm=E2=80=9D.  A stock TR3 won=E2=80=99t usually run that fast of=
 course, but 87mm liners were actually cheaper than 83s, back in the 70s.  =
(I actually found a set that had been returned to Warshawski=E2=80=99s in C=
hicago, better known as JC Whitney, for even less than the usual price.)
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>     And I=E2=80=99ve run 4500 for literally hours without a problem.  (Sp=
eed enforcement in the desert tends to be lax =F0=9F=98=8A )
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>     From: TERRY SMITH mailto:terryrs@comcast.net
>     Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:47 PM
>     To: Randall mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com
>     Cc: Triumphs mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net
>     Subject: Re: [TR] MGA
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>     That reminds me.  When I say my TR3 "keeps up with traffic," I'm refe=
rencing traffic on the freeway here (tollway, rather) that clips along betw=
een 70 and 80 mph.  I've been curious about the various cruising speeds and=
 power performances of TR3's and their competition back in the day, cruisin=
g that is without winding up to crank shattering rpm's.  Anybody familiar w=
ith that?=20
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans=
-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Hmmm.&#160; So looking quickly other stree=
t cars of the time, a 1959 Porsche 356 A had a 1.6 liter engine; I don&#39;=
t know about the Porsche &#34;speedster&#34; or even if it was different, o=
ther than James Dean died in one.&#160; The 1959 MGA had a 1.6 liter.&#160;=
 The Jaguar XK 150 had a 3.8 liter engine.&#160; Karmann Ghia had between a=
 1.1 and 1.3 liter engine.&#160; As far as I can tell the Fiat 850 started =
in 1964, with an engine a single strong man could seemingly lift.&#160; The=
 Sunbeam Alpine was a 1.5 liter.&#160; The Austin Martin DB4 was 3.7 liters=
.&#160; Couldn&#39;t quickly find the big Healeys four and six cylinder eng=
ines.&#160; The Bugeye Sprite was a 0.948 liter; my sister called it her pu=
tt-putt.&#160; Triumphs and Morgans, of course, ran the same 2 liter engine=
.<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-ser=
if; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-fami=
ly: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">All this said, and=
 certainly subject to any corrections you might have, I remain unsure how T=
riumphs stacked up in races against these.&#160; Anybody?<br></p><p style=
=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51=
, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,ari=
al,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Terry<br></p><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te">On July 16, 2019 at 5:40 PM Randall &#60;tr3driver@ca.rr.com&#62; wrote=
: <br> <br><div class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-WordSection1"><p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b=
33b-MsoNormal">110 mph in 4<sup>th</sup> OD is only 4500 rpm.&#160; Not wha=
t I call &#8220;crank shattering rpm&#8221;.&#160; A stock TR3 won&#8217;t =
usually run that fast of course, but 87mm liners were actually cheaper than=
 83s, back in the 70s.&#160; (I actually found a set that had been returned=
 to Warshawski&#8217;s in Chicago, better known as JC Whitney, for even les=
s than the usual price.)</p><p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal">&#160;</p>=
<p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal">And I&#8217;ve run 4500 for literally =
hours without a problem.&#160; (Speed enforcement in the desert tends to be=
 lax <span style=3D"font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji',sans-serif;">=F0=9F=98=8A=
</span> )</p><p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-=
cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/=
?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoN=
ormal">&#160;</p><div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0p=
t; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal" style=
=3D"border: none; padding: 0in;"><strong>From: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:t=
erryrs@comcast.net">TERRY SMITH</a><br><strong>Sent: </strong>Tuesday, July=
 16, 2019 1:47 PM<br><strong>To: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr=
.com">Randall</a><br><strong>Cc: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.=
team.net">Triumphs</a><br><strong>Subject: </strong>Re: [TR] MGA</p></div><=
p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p><span style=3D"font-size: =
12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;">That reminds =
me.&#160; When I say my TR3 &#34;keeps up with traffic,&#34; I&#39;m refere=
ncing traffic on the freeway here (tollway, rather) that clips along betwee=
n 70 and 80 mph.&#160; I&#39;ve been curious about the various cruising spe=
eds and power performances of TR3&#39;s and their competition back in the d=
ay, cruising that is without winding up to crank shattering rpm&#39;s.&#160=
; Anybody familiar with that?&#160;</span></p></div></blockquote><p style=
=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #33333=
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