It's a good job you guys don't run with the VSCC, there vintage cut off is 1931
!
Roger Sieling wrote:
>
> Derek,
>
> How old do you think the "historic stock cars" are. I haven't seen a single
> one on the track that is more than 10 years old. That's vintage??? I would
> think the 333SPs could run in HSR's Thundersports, even today, but I guess
> they'd have to ask Joe.
>
> Roger
>
> >From: Derek Harling <derek.lola@sympatico.ca>
> >Reply-To: Derek Harling <derek.lola@sympatico.ca>
> >To: S800Racer@aol.com
> >CC: simon@mondes.com, vintage-race@autox.team.net, JWoesvra@aol.com,
> >David.Laver@msdw.com, lwdent@fwi.com
> >Subject: Re: Vintage Eligibility
> >Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 10:10:51 -0400
> >
> >Another load of Common Sense - what is this list coming to?
> >Thanks, Doug
> >Another example of "progress" or of "passing years" - Ferrari 333SPs are
> >occasionally turning up at vintage/historic - these were "state of the art"
> >less
> >than a decade ago but are now outdated. No doubt some will say,
> >effectively,
> >"store them for another decade or so while we decide if/when/where to
> >accept
> >them" - I say - lets embrace them - they are "thoroughbreds" - just need to
> >find
> >the appropriate venues/groups/classes. The more we encourage this sort of
> >acceptance the more worthwhile race cars will continue to be available for
> >future
> >generations.
> >Derek
> >
> >S800Racer@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 8/7/00 4:54:30 PM, simon@mondes.com writes:
> > >
> > > <<Is this distinction because former SCCA Production cars are considered
> >evil
> > > in some circles?>>
> > >
> > > It's not that certain cars are "evil", it's really a matter of
> >recreating
> > > certain periods in time. Much of vintage racing is aimed at recreating
> > > sports car racing during the 1950's and 1960's. A period considered by
> >most
> > > to be a "golden age" of sports car racing. In the 1970's and 1980's
> > > tube-framed and plastic bodied racers began to fill out the "production"
> >car
> > > fields. These cars were not made by sports car manufacturers but rather
> >by
> > > race shops and home builders. The '70's and '80's also brought slick
> >tires,
> > > proliferation of sponsorship and other changes. The cars from this
> >latter
> > > period are not "evil" or any less a race car than the cars of the former
> > > period. They are different. They are generally faster. They are in
> >some
> > > ways more replaceable in that a tube framed car can always be repaired
> >with
> > > new tubes and some welding.
> > > Vintage racing was in it's infancy when the cars of the 1970's and
> >1980's
> > > were being raced competitively and at the time no one worried about
> >whether
> > > or how they would fit into vintage racing in 20 or 30 years. In 1980
> >there
> > > were few if any places to run a 1975 SCCA production racer as a vintage
> >car.
> > > Now that such a car is 25 years old, it seems like there should be a
> >place
> > > for it. The prejudice that you sense comes from those who do not want
> >such a
> > > car mixed in with cars representing a different age of sports car
> >racing.
> > >
> > > Doug Meis
> >
>
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