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Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

To: Mike Munson <fasttrs@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods
From: Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 12:34:53 -0500
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The grease is critical - I once used something slicker than the ARP =
stuff, and stretched one.  Called the tech line and they pointed out my =
error and sold me a $40 bolt.  I wonder if the Pauter rods use the same =
little bolts.

On Dec 9, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Mike Munson wrote:

Yes they are the same, SPS bolts. I was thinking they were 3/8" but it's =
been a while since I've checked them. We torqued them per the specs, =
with an inch pound torque wrench. I like to use ARP thread grease on =
them too.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com> wrote:

> that's what the GT6 has.  TR6 with the stroker crank may be different.
> I agree with you, they seem tiny, but I'e been running them for six =
years with no issues.  Carillo tells me they are re-usable, though I =
never thought to record the installed measurements and check against =
them a year or two later.
> What I will do when I pull the bottom end apart in a week or two is to =
measure the installed length and then remeasure once disassembled.  If =
they "shrink" as much as the stretch dimension used for installation, =
they should still be good, i.e., they have not been stretched beyond the =
elastic range.
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> On Dec 9, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Barr, Scott wrote:
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> Do the TR6/GT6 Carrillos have the same teeny-tiny little rod bolts =
that the Carrillos for my 1500 Spit do?  I think they're 1/4", with a =
torque spec of something like 18 lb/ft?  I just don't like those.  =
Granted, never had one fail, but I also have been replacing them every =
once in a while at something like $37 per bolt.  You're supposed to =
inspect them frequently by checking to see whether they have stretched =
at all, but I've never come up with a really reliable way of comparing =
the length of one particular rod bolt upon disassembly against its =
length at assembly. =20
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> Scott
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Munson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 10:04 AM
> To: McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com>
> Cc: FOT list <fot@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods
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> The most cost effective thing you can do to your engine is spend a lot =
of money on a set of Carrillo's!
> Mine are about 16 years old.
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> Mike Munson
> #28 EP TR6
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>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 10:52 PM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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>> Hi Gents.
>>   I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for =
GT6.  Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am =
still searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom =
made. and would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets =
call it a race car for the sake of argument....
>>                                Thanks.  P.J.
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">The =
grease is critical - I once used something slicker than the ARP stuff, =
and stretched one. &nbsp;Called the tech line and they pointed out my =
error and sold me a $40 bolt. &nbsp;I wonder if the Pauter rods use the =
same little bolts.<div><br><div><div>On Dec 9, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Mike =
Munson wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><meta =
http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div =
dir=3D"auto"><div>Yes they are the same, SPS bolts. I was thinking they =
were 3/8" but it's been a while since I've checked them. We torqued them =
per the specs, with an inch pound torque wrench. I like to use ARP =
thread grease on them too.<br><br>Mike Munson<div>#28 EP =
TR6</div></div><div><br>On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Scott Janzen &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:sjanzen@me.com";>sjanzen@me.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>that's what the GT6 =
has. &nbsp;TR6 with the stroker crank may be different.<div>I agree with =
you, they seem tiny, but I'e been running them for six years with no =
issues. &nbsp;Carillo tells me they are re-usable, though I never =
thought to record the installed measurements and check against them a =
year or two later.</div><div>What I will do when I pull the bottom end =
apart in a week or two is to measure the installed length and then =
remeasure once disassembled. &nbsp;If they "shrink" as much as the =
stretch dimension used for installation, they should still be good, =
i.e., they have not been stretched beyond the elastic =
range.</div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 9, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Barr, Scott =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div>Do the TR6/GT6 =
Carrillos have the same teeny-tiny little rod bolts that the Carrillos =
for my 1500 Spit do? &nbsp;I think they're 1/4", with a torque spec of =
something like 18 lb/ft? &nbsp;I just don't like those. &nbsp;Granted, =
never had one fail, but I also have been replacing them every once in a =
while at something like $37 per bolt. &nbsp;You're supposed to inspect =
them frequently by checking to see whether they have stretched at all, =
but I've never come up with a really reliable way of comparing the =
length of one particular rod bolt upon disassembly against its length at =
assembly. &nbsp;<br><br>Scott<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: =
Fot [<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>] On Behalf Of Mike Munson<br>Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 =
10:04 AM<br>To: McKearn McKearn &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com";>mckearn2@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Cc: FOT =
list &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>Subject: =
Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<br><br>The most cost effective thing you =
can do to your engine is spend a lot of money on a set of =
Carrillo's!<br>Mine are about 16 years old.<br><br>Mike Munson<br>#28 EP =
TR6<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 8, 2015, at 10:52 PM, =
McKearn McKearn &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com";>mckearn2@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hi =
Gents.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> &nbsp;&nbsp;I am =
looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for GT6. =
&nbsp;Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am =
still searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom =
made. and would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets =
call it a race car for the sake of =
argument....<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> =
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