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To: Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>, Mike Munson <fasttrs@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods
From: "Barr, Scott" <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 18:23:13 +0000
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Nope, the Pauter rod bolts are larger, even for the small journal Spit moto=
r.

Scott B.

From: Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen@me.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:35 AM
To: Mike Munson <fasttrs@yahoo.com>
Cc: Barr, Scott <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com>; FOT list <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

The grease is critical - I once used something slicker than the ARP stuff, =
and stretched one.  Called the tech line and they pointed out my error and =
sold me a $40 bolt.  I wonder if the Pauter rods use the same little bolts.

On Dec 9, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Mike Munson wrote:

Yes they are the same, SPS bolts. I was thinking they were 3/8" but it's be=
en a while since I've checked them. We torqued them per the specs, with an =
inch pound torque wrench. I like to use ARP thread grease on them too.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6

.com>> wrote:
that's what the GT6 has.  TR6 with the stroker crank may be different.
I agree with you, they seem tiny, but I'e been running them for six years w=
ith no issues.  Carillo tells me they are re-usable, though I never thought=
 to record the installed measurements and check against them a year or two =
later.
What I will do when I pull the bottom end apart in a week or two is to meas=
ure the installed length and then remeasure once disassembled.  If they "sh=
rink" as much as the stretch dimension used for installation, they should s=
till be good, i.e., they have not been stretched beyond the elastic range.

On Dec 9, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Barr, Scott wrote:

Do the TR6/GT6 Carrillos have the same teeny-tiny little rod bolts that the=
 Carrillos for my 1500 Spit do?  I think they're 1/4", with a torque spec o=
f something like 18 lb/ft?  I just don't like those.  Granted, never had on=
e fail, but I also have been replacing them every once in a while at someth=
ing like $37 per bolt.  You're supposed to inspect them frequently by check=
ing to see whether they have stretched at all, but I've never come up with =
a really reliable way of comparing the length of one particular rod bolt up=
on disassembly against its length at assembly.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Munson
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

The most cost effective thing you can do to your engine is spend a lot of m=
oney on a set of Carrillo's!
Mine are about 16 years old.

Mike Munson
#28 EP TR6


earn2@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Gents.
  I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for GT6.  Ca=
n't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am still searching=
 for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made. and would l=
ike input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a race car f=
or the sake of argument....
                               Thanks.  P.J.



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Nope, the Pauter rod bolts are larger=
, even for the small journal Spit motor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Scott B.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen@m=
e.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Munson &lt;fasttrs@yahoo.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Barr, Scott &lt;sbarr@McCarty-Law.com&gt;; FOT list &lt;fot@auto=
x.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The grease is critical - I once used something slick=
er than the ARP stuff, and stretched one. &nbsp;Called the tech line and th=
ey pointed out my error and sold me a $40 bolt. &nbsp;I wonder if the Paute=
r rods use the same little bolts.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Dec 9, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Mike Munson wrote:<o:p>=
</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes they are the same, SPS bolts. I was thinking the=
y were 3/8&quot; but it's been a while since I've checked them. We torqued =
them per the specs, with an inch pound torque wrench. I like to use ARP thr=
ead grease on them too.<br>
<br>
Mike Munson<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">#28 EP TR6<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Scott Janzen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sjanzen@me.=
com">sjanzen@me.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">that's what the GT6 has. &nbsp;TR6 with the stroker =
crank may be different.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I agree with you, they seem tiny, but I'e been runni=
ng them for six years with no issues. &nbsp;Carillo tells me they are re-us=
able, though I never thought to record the installed measurements and check=
 against them a year or two later.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What I will do when I pull the bottom end apart in a=
 week or two is to measure the installed length and then remeasure once dis=
assembled. &nbsp;If they &quot;shrink&quot; as much as the stretch dimensio=
n used for installation, they should still be good,
 i.e., they have not been stretched beyond the elastic range.<o:p></o:p></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Dec 9, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Barr, Scott wrote:<o:p>=
</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Do the TR6/GT6 Carrillos have the same teeny-tiny li=
ttle rod bolts that the Carrillos for my 1500 Spit do? &nbsp;I think they'r=
e 1/4&quot;, with a torque spec of something like 18 lb/ft? &nbsp;I just do=
n't like those. &nbsp;Granted, never had one fail, but
 I also have been replacing them every once in a while at something like $3=
7 per bolt. &nbsp;You're supposed to inspect them frequently by checking to=
 see whether they have stretched at all, but I've never come up with a real=
ly reliable way of comparing the length
 of one particular rod bolt upon disassembly against its length at assembly=
. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
Scott<br>
<br>
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From: Fot [<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:fot-bounces=
@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Mike Munson<br>
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 10:04 AM<br>
To: McKearn McKearn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com";>mckearn2@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: FOT list &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</=
a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<br>
<br>
The most cost effective thing you can do to your engine is spend a lot of m=
oney on a set of Carrillo's!<br>
Mine are about 16 years old.<br>
<br>
Mike Munson<br>
#28 EP TR6<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Dec 8, 2015, at 10:52 PM, McKearn McKearn &lt;<a =
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o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpee=
ding connecting rods for GT6. &nbsp;Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping t=
hese are good. Also am still searching for an aluminum flywheel without hav=
ing something custom made. and would like input on
 what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a race car for the sake =
of argument....<o:p></o:p></p>
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