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To: "'R. Lindsay'" <050.rpl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Electric Issue
From: Henry G Leach via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 21:26:43 +0000 Qtxn7mk6pROuZ+OfiM2DVDbe4T93j09BdIYPm+OlFfTF6KtzYxEipZKnWI6bpAfMHODrbIDbcToUXT8K8L+3pP6k3eGtd/LCQjw1WyI6aqbG1Rrhc08YhZyQ igeFWG0vQJ8EDGk8Vz2b4Q==
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You're welcome Price, glad that fixed the issue. As far as the=0Avoltmet=
er is concerned, it measures battery voltage whereas the=0Aammeter tells=
 battery, generator condition. If you have changed the=0Acar to negative=
 ground and added an alternator, the voltmeter is a=0Agood option. Howev=
er, if the car is still Positive ground an ammeter=0Amight be more usefu=
l.=0ATo hook up the voltmeter, as you requested, put the green wire to t=
he=0Aon side of the ignition key and the black wire to a good body groun=
d.=0AThe red wire is for the illumination and you should splice it on to=
=0Athe panel lights (R/W) wire. If the case of the meter and bulb socket=
=0Aare metal, the bulbholder serves as ground. If its plastic you should=
=0Aadd an additional ground wire. If the gauge reads backwards, swap the=
=0Aleads. Hank, healeyhelper.com=0A=0A=09-------------------------------=
----------From: "R. Lindsay" =0ATo: gradea1@charter.net=0ACc: "Kees Oude=
sluijs", "Healey List"=0ASent: Monday June 14 2021 4:10:32PM=0ASubject:=
 Re: [Healeys] Electric Issue=0A=0A Thank you Hank! Your advice is right=
 on. I found a black wire,=0Adisconnected and hiding behind the tach. Co=
nnected the black wire,=0Areplaced the two burned wires and everything n=
ow works. The volt meter=0Astill but maybe it=E2=80=99s fried. Is there=
 a way to test it? =0A Thanks again!!=0A=0APrice Lindsay =0A Cell: 630-8=
41-6300 Email: 050.rpl@gmail.com =0A Sent from my iPhone  =0AOn Jun 14,=
 2021, at 1:42 PM, gradea1@charter.net wrote:=0A=0A   =EF=BB=BFPrice- Oh=
, someone has been messing with the original wiring.=0AThe black wires o=
n the fixing post of the tach MUST GO TO GROUND. The=0Ared/white is for=
 the panel lights, POSITIVE. There is an additional=0Ablack wire which i=
s for the panel GROUND. The panel switch is R/W & R=0A(no black). The wa=
y it is currently wired creates a short to the=0Abattery-thus your smoke=
 and burned wires. =0A Check your wiring diagram in the workshop or owne=
rs book and INSURE=0Athat you know where each one is connected. The pane=
l switch is just a=0Aknife break in the red wire and should NEVER GO TO=
 GROUND. Consider=0Areplacing those burned wires. Then check the wiring=
 of the voltmeter=0Aand assemble as Kees has described. Hank=0A=0A=09---=
-------------------------------------- From: "R. Lindsay via=0AHealeys"=
=0A To: "Kees Oudesluijs", "Healey List"=0A Cc:=0A Sent: Monday June 14=
 2021 9:26:47AM=0A Subject: Re: [Healeys] Electric Issue=0A=0A Thanks Ke=
es. =0A I have 3 wires to the volt meter- red/white to the bulb, black t=
o the=0Aright terminal and green to the left terminal. Are you suggestin=
g=0Aputting the green and black wires together on a terminal? =0A On the=
 wiring diagram, there are =E2=80=9Ctriangles=E2=80=9D where the black=
=0Awires attach to the gauges , grounding points. On the tach, it appear=
s=0Athe grounding point is connected to a red/white wire going to the=0A=
panel switch and the two black are connected elsewhere. When messing=0Aw=
ith the wires yesterday I produced a little =E2=80=9Csmoke=E2=80=9D and=
 found the=0Ainsulation on red wire from the panel switch to the lightin=
g switch,=0Aand the two red/white wires between the tach and panel switc=
h were=0Amelted.  =0A It seems the issue I am having is between the ligh=
ting switch, the=0Apanel switch and the tach, hence the burned wires (th=
e tach shuts down=0Awith the lights and panel switch are on, but runs wh=
en the panel=0Aswitch is on but the lights are off).  =0A What do you th=
ink?=0A=0APrice Lindsay =0A Cell: 630-841-6300 Email: 050.rpl@gmail.com=
 =0A Sent from my iPhone  =0AOn Jun 14, 2021, at 3:48 AM, Kees Oudesluij=
s  wrote:=0A=0A   =EF=BB=BF =0A=0A=09Hi Price,=0A=0A=09If you did a stra=
ight swap of the Ammeter with the Voltmeter you will=0Ahave all sorts of=
 problems.=0A=0A=09The full current is passing through an Ammeter (no re=
sistance),=0Ahowever if you replace the ammeter with a Voltmeter (very h=
igh=0Aresistance) no current can pass to operate the rest of the system.=
=0A=0A=09You have to connect together the two wires that were on the Amm=
eter.=0AThe plus side of the voltmeter you have connect to the accesory=
 or=0Aignition terminal of the ignition switch. The negative side is=0Ac=
onnected to any suitable earth point.=0A=0A=09Kees Oudesluijs=0A

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<html><body>You're welcome Price, glad that fixed the issue. As far as t=
he voltmeter is concerned, it measures battery voltage whereas the ammet=
er tells battery, generator condition. If you have changed the car to ne=
gative ground and added an alternator, the voltmeter is a good option. H=
owever, if the car is still Positive ground an ammeter might be more use=
ful.<div><br></div><div>To hook up the voltmeter, as you requested, put=
 the green wire to the on side of the ignition key and the black wire to=
 a good body ground.&nbsp; The red wire is for the illumination and you=
 should splice it on to the panel lights (R/W) wire. If the case of the=
 meter and bulb socket are metal, the bulbholder serves as ground.&nbsp;=
 If its plastic you should add an additional ground wire. If the gauge r=
eads backwards, swap the leads. Hank, healeyhelper.com<br><br><div class=
=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>--------------------------------------=
---</p>From: "R. Lindsay" &lt;050.rpl@gmail.com&gt;<br>To: gradea1@chart=
er.net<br>Cc: "Kees Oudesluijs", "Healey List"<br>Sent: Monday June 14 2=
021 4:10:32PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Electric Issue<br><br>=0AThank y=
ou Hank! &nbsp;Your advice is right on. I found a black=0Awire, disconne=
cted and hiding behind the tach. Connected the black=0Awire, replaced th=
e two burned wires and everything now works. The=0Avolt meter still but=
 maybe it=E2=80=99s fried. Is there a way to test it?=0A<div><br></div>=
=0A<div>Thanks again!!<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Price Lindsay=0A<div><br>=
</div>=0A<div>Cell: 630-841-6300</div>=0A<div>Email: 050.rpl@gmail.com</=
div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Sent from my iPhone</div>=0A</div>=0A<div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote>On Jun 14, 2021, at 1:42 PM,=0Agradea1@char=
ter.net wrote:<br><br></blockquote>=0A</div>=0A<blockquote>=0A<div dir=
=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BFPrice- Oh, someone has been messing with the=0Aorigina=
l wiring. The black wires on the fixing post of the tach=0AMUST GO TO GR=
OUND. The red/white is for the panel lights, POSITIVE.=0AThere is an add=
itional black wire which is for the panel GROUND.=0AThe panel switch is=
 R/W &amp; R&nbsp; (no black).&nbsp; The way it is=0Acurrently wired cre=
ates a short to the battery-thus your smoke and=0Aburned wires.=0A<div><=
br></div>=0A<div>Check your wiring diagram in the workshop or owners boo=
k and=0AINSURE that you know where each one is connected. The panel swit=
ch=0Ais just a knife break in the red wire and should NEVER GO TO=0AGROU=
ND. Consider replacing those burned wires.&nbsp; Then check the=0Awiring=
 of the voltmeter and assemble as Kees has described.=0AHank<br><br><div=
 class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div>=0A<p>-----------------------------=
------------</p>=0AFrom: "R. Lindsay via Healeys"<br>=0ATo: "Kees Oudesl=
uijs", "Healey List"<br>=0ACc:<br>=0ASent: Monday June 14 2021 9:26:47AM=
<br>=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Electric Issue<br><br>=0AThanks Kees.&nbsp=
;=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>I have 3 wires to the volt meter- red/white t=
o the bulb, black=0Ato the right terminal and green to the left terminal=
. Are you=0Asuggesting putting the green and black wires together on a=
=0Aterminal?</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>On the wiring diagram, there=
 are =E2=80=9Ctriangles=E2=80=9D where the black=0Awires attach to the g=
auges , grounding points. &nbsp;On the tach,=0Ait appears the grounding=
 point is connected to a red/white wire=0Agoing to the panel switch and=
 the two black are connected=0Aelsewhere. When messing with the wires ye=
sterday I produced a=0Alittle =E2=80=9Csmoke=E2=80=9D and found the insu=
lation on red wire from the panel=0Aswitch to the lighting switch, and t=
he two red/white wires between=0Athe tach and panel switch were melted.&=
nbsp;</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>It seems the issue I am having is b=
etween the lighting switch,=0Athe panel switch and the tach, hence the b=
urned wires (the tach=0Ashuts down with the lights and panel switch are=
 on, but runs when=0Athe panel switch is on but the lights are off).&nbs=
p;</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>What do you think?<br><br><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Price Lindsay=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Cell: 630-841-6300</div>=0A<=
div>Email: 050.rpl@gmail.com</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Sent from my=
 iPhone</div>=0A</div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote>On Jun 14, 202=
1, at 3:48 AM, Kees Oudesluijs=0A&lt;coudesluijs@chello.nl&gt; wrote:<br=
><br></blockquote>=0A</div>=0A<blockquote>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF=
=0A<p>Hi Price,<br></p>=0A<p><br></p>=0A<p>If you did a straight swap of=
 the Ammeter with the Voltmeter you=0Awill have all sorts of problems.<b=
r></p>=0A<p>The full current is passing through an Ammeter (no resistanc=
e),=0Ahowever if you replace the ammeter with a Voltmeter (very high=0Ar=
esistance) no current can pass to operate the rest of the=0Asystem.<br><=
/p>=0A<p>You have to connect together the two wires that were on the=0AA=
mmeter. The plus side of the voltmeter you have connect to the=0Aaccesor=
y or ignition terminal of the ignition switch. The negative=0Aside is co=
nnected to any suitable earth point.<br></p>=0A<p><br></p>=0A<p>Kees Oud=
esluijs<br></p>=0A</div>=0A</blockquote>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</=
blockquote>=0A</div>=0A</div></body></html>

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