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RE: Roadster Rules

To: Beth Butters <bbutters@dmi.net>,
Subject: RE: Roadster Rules
From: Dick Jurkowski <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 06:34:59 -0700 (PDT)
It doesn't have a tag, but I guess that's why I
was having a hard time finding photos of any
Plymouths older than '28.  I guess I'll have to
get to Barnes and Noble and do some heavy
research on the Maxwell angle.  I'd sure like to
know what I'm driving.  It is a neat-looking
little roadster though. 

--- Beth Butters <bbutters@dmi.net> wrote:
>               Hi Dick,  You might find this a little odd
> but  reading your roadster  fender issue,
> something hit me as a little strange, it's the
> 1924  roadster bit,  I pretty sure the first
> year plymouths were made is  l928 so that takes
> care of that rule.  If you have a body tag and
> it reas any of the following it's 1928  Model
> Q, U, PA, PB , PC, or PD.  I don"t think you
> have to worry about not being able to run if
> the car is safety compliant, it just won't have
> a class,  I've scene  Winston west Nascars, 
> modified  roundy rounds ect. Out there just
> running for time.  Course you should  be able
> to build the roadster to fit some class.  L.
> Kvach Butters
> 
> ----------
> From:  Dick Jurkowski[SMTP:lsr_man@yahoo.com]
> Sent:  Friday, October 22, 1999 1:17 PM
> To:  dwarner@electrorent.com
> Cc:  land-speed@autox.team.net
> Subject:  Roadster Rules
> 
> Dan, I sent the following questions to a
> B-ville
> racer and he recommended that I ask you, as you
> are "Dah Man" when it comes to this stuff.  
> 
> "OK, I need some help building my roadster. But
> nobody even has to get their hands dirty to
> give
> me this kind of help.   This project is one of
> those that goes through a continuous
> metamorphosis of changes because moving bracket
> "a" two inches to clear the steering box ends
> up
> having the motor moved, which means the
> firewall
> won't work and then the first thing you know,
> it's all the way back to repositioning the rear
> axle - - -I'm sure you all know how it goes.
> I started out building a Street Roadster.  I
> began with a fabricated 2/4 tube frame that a
> previous owner had started to build, a 1948
> Ford
> motor, and an original steel and rust 1924
> Plymouth roadster body.  As work progressed,
> and
> piece by piece, I got everything in place where
> I
> wanted it, I ended up with the body so low that
> I
> can't run rear fenders unless I run lawn mower
> wheels and tires - and that ain't an option. 
> So,
> I figured, "OK", I'll slip the whole thing up
> into Gas Roadster class.  All goes well until I
> re-visit the rules today and realize that GR
> cutoff date is 1928, leaving my 1924 Mopar out
> in
> the cold.  Now, I really don't want to go all
> the
> way into Modified Roadster just because my body
> is a couple of years too old, and four inches
> too
> low, so I'm looking for options.  The rules for
> SR basically prohibit body modifications, but I
> would really like to go into that class.  The
> hold-back is the SR requirement to run rear
> fenders.  Since the fenders are bolt-on items,
> and not really part of the body, does the rule
> on
> prohibition of body modification also prohibit
> repositioning the rear fenders higher on the
> body? Also, I don't have any 1924 Plymouth
> fenders.  Even if I can mount the fenders
> higher,
> can I use other fenders like easier to find
> Fords
> or Chev, or plain after-markets? Could they
> even
> be "cycle-mounted"?  I'm still at the point
> where
> I can do some cutting and re-welding on the
> frame
> to get it back up high enough to get fenders on
> the body, but I hate to do that if there's
> another way. Besides, it's not even an option
> if
> I have to have 1924 Plymouth fenders which I
> seriously doubt I could ever find.  Is going MR
> my only route here?
> I'd sure appreciate any comments and guidance
> from anybody familiar with complying with these
> particular sections of the rules."
> 
> His answer was that I could use other fenders,
> such as Model A, and that I could mount them
> higher on the body to clear the tires, but that
> I
> should contact you for difinitive guidance. 
> Can
> you provide any further input on this?  I'd
> sure
> like to be "rule-ready" when I take this thing
> out for the first time. I'd hate to spend all
> the
> bread making a long trip, renting motel rooms,
> buying meals, etc,  and then not be able to
> race
> 'cause I made some stupid mistake.
> 
> 
> 
> =====
> Dick J - - ECTA #72
> G/FCC  - - XF/GR
> 
> 


=====
Dick J - - ECTA #72
G/FCC  - - ??/Roadster

(Roadster under construction 
             and
still seeking an identity)

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