Dave,
I'll let president Mike Manghelli handle this one as he is in direct contact
with the base and has the most up to minute info. He did mention at our club
banquet Saturday night that the Muroc Committe had given the base an
extremely attractive offer.
Dan W
----- Original Message -----
From: David Haller <dhaller@techline.com>
To: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: /MS rules
> Morning Dan,
> Us public employees got the day off, well I hope I did, I get called out
for
> major stuff. Anyway, was down in the Portland area yesterday seeing my
> friend Russ Meeks picking up a coated rear end and was advised that the
> Muroc meet is still in negotiation with the air force. Could you verify
that
> and let us know when an agreement is made so us soggy dirt racers up north
> can make plans to attend and compete.
> Thanks,
> Dave Haller #93 in the again rainy pacific northwest
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> To: David Haller <dhaller@techline.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 5:04 AM
> Subject: Re: /MS rules
>
>
> > Dave & list,
> >
> > The length of the spoiler chord (10") is measured at the center of the
> deck
> > lid. The side plates could be at an angle if you wish. Remember that
there
> > can be no gap between the spoiler and deck lid, the edges of the spoiler
> > will be longer than the center if the deck lid curves forward.
> >
> > Dan W
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Haller <dhaller@techline.com>
> > To: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>; <j8224@fuse>; Nona Etheredge
> > <netheredge@electrorent.com>
> > Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 10:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: /MS rules
> >
> >
> > > Hi Dan,
> > > I bet your glad you jumped on this list. It's kinda like me in law
> > > enforcement, there seems to be no end to the questions, 24 hrs a day.
Oh
> > > well, I still enjoy it, even after 30 yrs of it. My question to you
old
> > shoe
> > > is this. We were working on my hot rod tonight, you remember it well,
> Don
> > > Duerksens old 90 Berretta. We were looking at the spoiler again and
> > > discussing what you shared with me at the World Finals. I need to know
> the
> > > following. My trunk lid curves around with the furthest point back
being
> > in
> > > the middle. Is the 10" plate measured from that point back or where
the
> > > curve stops on the outside edges? Also, can the side plates be in any
> > other
> > > direction other than straight up and down? Thanks for the help and see
> you
> > > at Muroc.
> > > Dave Haller #93 still C/GAlt and wet up here in the soggy northwest.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> > > To: <j8224@fuse>; Nona Etheredge <netheredge@electrorent.com>
> > > Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 6:53 AM
> > > Subject: Fw: /MS rules
> > >
> > >
> > > > Tim & list,
> > > >
> > > > We certify the engine by direct measurement of the bore and stroke,
> > > formula
> > > > in last paragraph of Sect II-1. If the engine is built to 3% below
the
> > > upper
> > > > limit of the class or 3% above the lower limit of the class (H =
> between
> > > > 63.86 to 90.02 ci) then the air pump may be used. The valve
operation
> > must
> > > > be disabled for the pump to work, Sect I-8.
> > > >
> > > > Dan W
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: tschoen <j82244@fuse.net>
> > > > To: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> > > > Cc: <kturk@ala.net>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 6:33 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: /MS rules
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Dan,let me make sure I've got this right-an "H" class motor can be
> > > 92.9999
> > > > cu.
> > > > > in.and pass certification-right? How does SCTA measure
> > > > displacement?Thanks.
> > > > > Tim Schoeny
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan Warner wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Keith,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are allowed out to 305.999999.... It looks like we will have
> dry
> > > ice
> > > > the
> > > > > > block when it is measured.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dan W
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
> > > > > > To: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 1:53 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: /MS rules
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey Dan.... I am putting together this combination for this
> > year...
> > > > and
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > best I can come up with is a 305.11 cubic inch is there any
> margin
> > > for
> > > > > > > error here? The only other option I can think of is to cheat
> one
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > cylinders and spend bout 200 dolllars on a sleeve and separate
> > > > piston....
> > > > > > > any thoughts? Keith
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > > > From: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> > > > > > > > To: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > > > > > > > Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: /MS rules
> > > > > > > > Date: Monday, February 14, 2000 9:45 AM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The body must remain stock from the FIREWALL back. Doors
back
> is
> > > too
> > > > > > far,
> > > > > > > > can't mod the cowl area. Each vehicle is different though,
the
> > > doors
> > > > > > > might
> > > > > > > > be at the firewall on the 924. I don't pretend to know every
> car
> > > > ever
> > > > > > > made,
> > > > > > > > that's why I need documentation in impound.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dan W
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > > > > > > > To: George Mitchell <americanpartner@yahoo.com>; Dan Warner
> > > > > > > > <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> > > > > > > > Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 7:12 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: /MS rules
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > George
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I believe its like /CC. You can modify the front end in
/MS
> as
> > > > long as
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > body is original from the doors back. Might as well
stretch
> it
> > > to
> > > > 130"
> > > > > > > > > WB...to improve handling, and chop the top...to improve
> > frontal
> > > > area,
> > > > > > > > while
> > > > > > > > > your at it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > John Beckett, LSR #79
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "George Mitchell" <americanpartner@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > > > > To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; "Dan Warner"
> > > > > > > <dwarner@electrorent.com>;
> > > > > > > > > "Richard Kensicki" <richk@sparta-junction.com>
> > > > > > > > > Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 9:54 AM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Thanks for Opel GT Input
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hey list,
> > > > > > > > > > It sounds like I picked the right class. Lots of
> > > > > > > > > > competition. Still waiting on the rule book but...
> > > > > > > > > > The Porsche body that I am building is a '78. It has
> > > > > > > > > > what can only be described as sort of a "dirty" nose
> > > > > > > > > > there is a plastic bumper out there and a lower
> > > > > > > > > > valance that would surely put air underneath the car
> > > > > > > > > > at speed.
> > > > > > > > > > I could update the front with parts that I have for
> > > > > > > > > > the later Euro Turbo car ('85) which has a hidden
> > > > > > > > > > bumper and more of a scoopped or staight appearance
> > > > > > > > > > (think Nascar front end).
> > > > > > > > > > With the liberal aero rules in M/S would this
> > > > > > > > > > "updating" be legal? This would be easier for me and
> > > > > > > > > > the modification would be quick and have somewhat
> > > > > > > > > > proven aero.
> > > > > > > > > > George in DC
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Yep Dan..... John Rains didn't ruin D/B/Galt.... he
> > > > > > > > > > > simply moved the record
> > > > > > > > > > > out of my pocket book.... I don't have to have his
> > > > > > > > > > > car to go that fast... I
> > > > > > > > > > > got to have his MOTOR.... and sans that.... Might as
> > > > > > > > > > > well build a MS... and
> > > > > > > > > > > Have at it... I am not building a Berkley... I am
> > > > > > > > > > > going to build a
> > > > > > > > > > > Bugeye... little bigger but not enough that a little
> > > > > > > > > > > HP won't make up for
> > > > > > > > > > > it....
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Look at Doug Odom.... his Bugeye just got in the Two
> > > > > > > > > > > Club....K
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: Richard Kensicki <richk@sparta-junction.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Thanks for Opel GT Input
> > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Monday, February 14, 2000 7:15 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Richard,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The answer to your question re: the Benham & Carr
> > > > > > > > > > > Berkley on the 2000
> > > > > > > > > > > > rulebook cover is easy. The M/S class is
> > > > > > > > > > > currently/probably the class
> > > > > > > > > > > most
> > > > > > > > > > > > open for innovation. A small base vehicle which
> > > > > > > > > > > was sold as a sports car,
> > > > > > > > > > > > 130" wb, any frame, and liberal aero make for some
> > > > > > > > > > > strange bed fellows.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Engine size aside, as long as an entrant can
> > > > > > > > > > > provide documentation as to
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > availability of the base car and the stock
> > > > > > > > > > > dimensions so that impound can
> > > > > > > > > > > > verify the legality of the car, that would make
> > > > > > > > > > > Leonard Carr's car (no
> > > > > > > > > > > pun
> > > > > > > > > > > > intended) one of the best choices for class. As in
> > > > > > > > > > > the past the uproar
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > this vehicle has destroyed the class "everyone has
> > > > > > > > > > > to have one" is in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > wind. When Ron Benham first brought out his Monza
> > > > > > > > > > > then the Crosley that
> > > > > > > > > > > Earl
> > > > > > > > > > > > Wooden currently runs the cry was the same. As you
> > > > > > > > > > > can see other racers
> > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > found ways to compete and set records in various
> > > > > > > > > > > classes against these
> > > > > > > > > > > cars
> > > > > > > > > > > > without using the body dujour.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > What are your questions regarding the legality of
> > > > > > > > > > > the Berkley? Maybe I
> > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > > help.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Dan W
> > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Richard Kensicki <richk@sparta-junction.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 4:26 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Thanks for Opel GT Input
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for all the replies about a possible Opel
> > > > > > > > > > > GT for the mile. Are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > there any pictures of Bill Ward's Opel on line?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I keep rereading the rule book section for
> > > > > > > > > > > modified sports and then
> > > > > > > > > > > look
> > > > > > > > > > > > > at the rule book cover (2000 edition) and say
> > > > > > > > > > > (not out loud) how does
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that car run as B modified sports? I must be too
> > > > > > > > > > > legalistic.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rich
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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