John, This is a site that had some info on nitro
propane. They sell smaller retail amounts and
are not that far from you.
Dick J
--- John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
wrote:
> Could be wrong here but I don't think there is
> a list of legal fuels for
> fuel class. Just legal gasoline for the gas
> class.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hyatt Engineering Ltd."
> <Hyatt-Engineering-Ltd@fuse.net>
> To: "John Beckett"
> <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>;
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 6:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Nitropropane
>
>
> > John,
> >
> > Nitropropane is manufactured by:
> > Angus Chemical Company
> > 1500 E. Lake Cook Road
> > Buffalo Grove Road, IL 60089
> > Phone: 708-215-8600
> > But they do not sell is small retail
> quantities. However Angus is also
> the
> > major producer of nitromethane, so most of
> the folks selling nitro buy it
> > from Angus and could also get the
> nitropropane for you.
> > It's ability to be mixed with gas would seem
> to make it desirable for
> anyone
> > wanting to run in both gas and fuel classes
> with minimum modifications (if
> > it was on the list of legal fuels).
> >
> > Greg
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Beckett"
> <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > To: "Hyatt Engineering Ltd."
> <Hyatt-Engineering-Ltd@fuse.net>;
> > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:57 PM
> > Subject: Fuel
> >
> >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > Have read some material on
> nitropropane. I understand that it mixes
> > well
> > > with gasoline. Have only heard of it being
> used in the 15% to 20% range,
> > but
> > > don't know why you couldn't uses it at 50%.
> There may be some big
> > > differences between nitro and gas vs. nitro
> and alcohol that has lead
> all
> > > the racers to run nitromethane today.
> > > In small percentages may actually be
> easier to run your vehicle with
> > > gasoline rather than alcohol. So where can
> one find nitropropane?
> > >
> > > John Beckett, LSR #79
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Hyatt Engineering Ltd."
> <Hyatt-Engineering-Ltd@fuse.net>
> > > To: "John Beckett"
> <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>;
> <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>;
> > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 9:40 AM
> > > Subject: Re: MSD Detonation Detector and
> Cockpit Display Meter
> > >
> > >
> > > > John,
> > > > Back in the 50s some of the producers of
> nitro proposed using it in
> fuel
> > > for
> > > > on-highway vehicles, and did a lot of
> research into controlling knock
> to
> > > > make it streatable. They used lab type
> "detonation detectors", high
> > > > frequency accelerometers with data
> acquisition systems, to observe
> the
> > > > knock. The conclusions were that
> nitromethane should always be used
> in
> > > > blends with nitropropane (usually around
> 50/50). The nitropropane
> helped
> > > > enormously in controlling the knock, for
> reasons that were not quite
> > > > understood.
> > > > While I bring this up primarily to point
> out that properly calibrated
> > > > detonation detectors can certainly be
> useful with nitrous, (I suspect
> > the
> > > > commercially available units are just
> calibrated for more conventional
> > > > applications, or are sized incorrectly
> and are "clipping" on the high
> > > > amplitude content of the spectrum), it
> prompts a few questions and
> > > > observations of my own:
> > > > Why is nitropropane not included in the
> list of legal fuels ? By all
> > > > accounts I can find it is much more
> stable. While it has a lower
> oxygen
> > > > content than nitromethane and makes less
> power when run undiluted,
> > anyone
> > > > running a mix could just use more of it.
> > > > Does anyone run undiluted or lightly
> diluted nitro on the salt ? Most
> > of
> > > > the folks I have spoken to run weak
> mixes, under 25% nitro, but I do
> not
> > > > know how typical this is.
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "John Beckett"
> <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > > > To: <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>;
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:21 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: MSD Detonation Detector and
> Cockpit Display Meter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Doug
> > > > >
> > > > > >From what little I know about these
> things they work great on
> street
> > > > > cars...are marginal on race cars...and
> I would guess about useless
> > with
> > > > > nitro.
> > > > >
> > > > > John Beckett, LSR #79
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>
> > > > > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 3:55 PM
> > > > > Subject: MSD Detonation Detector and
> Cockpit Display Meter
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Group,
> > > > > > Has any body out there used the
> MSD detonation sensor on nitro
> > > that
> > > > > has a
> > > > > > readout in the cockpit for the driver
> to see. Chuck Salmen has one
> > on
> > > > his
> > > > > > $um-Fun gas roadster and he likes it.
> What I don't know is how
> they
> > > > would
> > > > > > react to nitro which is on the verge
> of detonating at all times.
> > > > > > Anybody had any
> experience?...............................Doug
> > > King
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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..........Dick J.............
......(In East Texas)........
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