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Re: Battery cut off?

To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
Subject: Re: Battery cut off?
From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:27:42 -0500
    The only change in verbage that I am aware of Keith, is that the cut-off
is now mandatory. Otherwise the placement of the switch is up to the
participant.
    Joe Timney has a neat remote operated unit that will replace your heavy
duty solenoid, and avoid all the HD wire running all over the place. Even
has the necessary switch for the Magneto, or one wire alternator guys, so
everything gets shut off at one time.

    John Beckett, LSR Comp Coupe #79

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
To: "Glen Barrett" <speedtimer@earthlink.net>
Cc: "Bill Bennett" <benettw@earthlink.net>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 4:33 AM
Subject: Battery cut off?


> Hey Dan... do we know the exact verbage of the change to the emergency cut
> off switch yet?
>
> Here is the reason I am asking.... The constant duty solenoids I am using
> haven't turned out to be a very good Idea.... seems they build up a strong
> electrical field and when shut off it takes a couple of seconds for the
> solenoid to release... What that means is in the event of an incident...
if
> we turned everything off a delay in shutting down the car could be
> crucial.... So I am going to swap all that out for Relay's which are in
fact
> instantanious
>
> If I have to carry the Battery Power ( Big Wires) all the way to the back
of
> the car and then to the console and back to the using components in the
> front of the car.... I am going to have HUGE wires running all over the
> place.... Personally I would perfer to have the Console power only at the
> back of the car...in the emergency shut off switch... when you turn it off
> the power is removed from the using components instantly with the use of
> relay's.... I think this is a bunch safer then a 15 foot long rod or cable
> that could become bent or crimped in an accident.
>
> I am not interested in moving the Batteries to the Trunk.... I have way to
> much Fuel running around back there...
>
> Keith ( thanks for your time again Dan )
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glen Barrett" <speedtimer@earthlink.net>
> To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> Cc: "Bill Bennett" <benettw@earthlink.net>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Electrical stuff
>
>
> > Hey Keith
> > Can't you do anything without someone getting in your face??
> >
> > Keith Turk wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Bill... very cool website... I know I gotta buy some weather pack
> stuff
> > > so Dave will get off my butt for doing what I knew how to do....
Geez...
> you
> > > guys don't like any of my electrical system that I was so terribly
proud
> > > of.... all lined up neat and pretty.... all soldered and heat
> shrinked...
> > >
> > > Bet you would complain if I hung you with a new rope...
> > >
> > > K
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bill Bennett" <benettw@earthlink.net>
> > > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 2:47 PM
> > > Subject: Painting other things
> > >
> > > > While will are on the subject of painting blocks. A though came to
me
> > > > of something else useful to paint. Those pesky electrical
connections
> > > > that like to get all nasty after seeing salt. A few simple tips may
> > > > save you some trouble later on.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Don't solder any electrical connection. Soldering causes a
fatigue
> > > > point. Use a crimp type connection, not the common type that you
find
> > > > in any auto parts store, but ones with a heat shrink type sleeve
that
> > > > seals the crimp.Yes Keith you can use your wife's blow dryer to
shrink
> > > > to sleeve. A pocket lighter is not recommend as it tends to get to
hot
> > > > and also if you forget and put it back in your pocket might burn
some
> > > > pretty serious places. If you have to use a common type crimp run to
> > > > the closest Radio Shack and get some heat shrink tubing.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Invest in a good quality crimper usually about 30-50 bucks not
one
> > > > of those 5 -10 dollars types. You want a ratchet type that crimps
the
> > > > metal ferrule as well as the plastic sleeve.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Don't use those 1/4" wide quick connects. Use switches that make
> > > > use of screw terminals and use a ring type crimp connections. Now it
> > > > won't vibrate lose and leave you wondering how that happened.
> > > >
> > > > 4. After all your wiring is done and check it out to be completely
> > > > functional. Find a can of plasti-dip use to recoat tool handles,
color
> > > > doesn't matter. If you can't find any look through your wife's
finger
> > > > nail polish, color does matter. Get the ugliest color you hate to
see
> > > > her wear. Hope she doesn't see you or she may worry about your other
> > > > hobbies. Paint every connection including the screws cover them
> > > > completely. This will seal the connections and help prevent them
from
> > > > vibrating lose.
> > > >
> > > > 5. Battery terminals: I wished they would outlaw those dog gone
cheap
> > > > emergency battery terminals as they are nothing but trouble. Moroso
> > > > and a few other stock a nice compression type terminal that works
like
> > > > a tubing compression fitting. Otherwise use a crimp type. They make
an
> > > > inexpensive tool for crimping these that Keith can use his hammer
> > > > with. Before adding the terminal make sure you have bright shiny
> > > > copper if not use some fine emery cloth to polish the wire. Obtain
> > > > some "NO-OX" from the local electrical supply house. It comes in a
> > > > tube. Coat the wire good with it and make your connection, you can
> > > > wipe off the excess. What now did you forget to put that piece of
heat
> > > > shrink tubing on it before you made the connection. Yeah helps seal
> > > > this connection too. Use it everywhere.
> > > >
> > > > Keith that last one is meant for you get rid of those sorry
terminals
> > > > no since having a fast car with cheap terminals.
> > > >
> > > > Here is a link that carries just about everything I talk about and
> > > > just about anything electrical you could need to wire a car.
> > > >
> > > > www.waytekwire.com
> > > > Order their free catalog
> > > >
> > > > Bill

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