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RE: rws

To: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>
Subject: RE: rws
From: john robinson <john@engr.wisc.edu>
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:22:12 -0500
I have always been thinking of a tricycle layout, but with 4 wheels, with 
the rear wheels tandem...although this does not alleviate the triangle 
configuration, it does help somewhat....

At 01:06 PM 10/2/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>John;
>
>People are always re-inventing the "three-wheeled car" for some reason. It
>is a terrible configuration handling-wise. The end with a single wheel has
>zero roll stiffness. Different is not always better.
>
>Regards, Neil     Tucson, AZ
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: john robinson [mailto:john@engr.wisc.edu]
>Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:46 AM
>To: land-speed@autox.team.net
>Subject: rws
>
>
>The UW did a rws car back in '81, a 50cc chainsaw motor and electrical
>conduit, the problem for it was that the very long wheelbase coupled with a
>tricycle rear steered wheel and a driver only a couple of feet ahead of the
>rear wheel made it very tippy, a 30+ mpg turn would cause it to fall over.
>but that was because the cg was pretty far aft, and thereby close to the
>wheel contact patch lines between front and rear tires. (center of front
>wheel contact patch to rear wheel patch,) the cg was pretty close to this
>line compared to a 4 wheel (rectangular ) car, and this was surmised to
>cause the tippyness. it did get lots of MPG though......
>
>            John Robinson, Mechanician
>    Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
>                  1513 University Ave.
>                   Madison, Wi. 53706
>                      608-262-3606
>             Current World Land Speed Record Holder
>                   Bonneville Salt Flats
>            H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
>                   144.396 MPH set 2000
>        MPS-PG 441 c.c. 1967 BSA Victor Motorcycle
>                      95.193 MPH set 2001
>                  Antarctic Ice Driller Oct02-Jan03

           John Robinson, Mechanician
   Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
                 1513 University Ave.
                  Madison, Wi. 53706
                     608-262-3606
            Current World Land Speed Record Holder
                  Bonneville Salt Flats
           H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
                  144.396 MPH set 2000
       MPS-PG 441 c.c. 1967 BSA Victor Motorcycle
                     95.193 MPH set 2001
                 Antarctic Ice Driller Oct02-Jan03





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