I'd emial this to you personally Kai, but my ISP uses AGIS. Agis has
tried to cut down on excessive junk mailing, but ... the courtsdecided
that junk mailings were not a violation to the junk-mailer's contract
w/AGIS, so AGIS was erquiroed to continues service for 30 days....
Kai Radicke wrote:
> (If you don't care about Junk Email, then you may delete)
>
> >Philippe...
> >
> >I made a similar inquiry of this list about a month ago. I, too,
> thought
> >the list of list users had been hooked by somebody(ies). After a bit
> of
> >discussion, and some more digging on my own, I realized that I had
> used the
> >Use-Net (??) a few months back. It was likely from there that my name
> got
> >snagged.
>
> UseNET is the biggest possibility, the list archives are also another.
>
> >Someone here also suggested several methods of finding some of these
> jerks.
> >I'm using Spam-Hater right now. SH digs through the offending e-mail
> and
> >sends a message of your choice to every site it came through... I
> wrote my
> >own message because the canned ones in the program are pretty
> childish...
>
> I emailed you (Carol) a list of things you could do after you
> mentioned
> that you were getting UCE (Unsolicited Commercial Email). The easiest
>
> thing for anyone that is getting SPAMed to request that you provider
> filter
> *all* known IP blocks from AGIS. My provider has decided to filter
> all
> AGIS traffic to the bit bucket.
>
> AGIS is the backbone provider for the largest junk email
> companies...CyberPromo, Quantcum, TheHitMan, etc.
>
> Filtering AGIS and other spammers at the ISP level is the most
> effective
> way. You can also report spam email to these addresses:
>
> http://spam.abuse.net
> http://www.cauce.org
>
> You can also forward your ISP this information, and you may find it
> useful
> also:
> http://www.patriot.net/users/scoile/isp-redhat/sendmail/antispam
>
> You will also find other anti-spam ideas on these sites.
>
> And if you ISP needs to find the IP Blocks to "deny" he can turn to
> the
> Inet-Access List archives: http://www.scomm.net/inet-access/
>
> Its in there along with 100,000 other messages on the topic of Spam.
>
> >HOWEVER, some of these guys are getting more "creative" and have
> >successfully been able to "fool" Spam Hater...
>
> Yup, I stopped using Spam Hater...it is becoming too unreliable.
>
> >AND most of these messages offer a "remove" option. At least the
> numbers
> >are dwindling.. That's the best I can offer in the way of HOPE for
> any kind
> >of remedy.
>
> I will have you note that you should never reply to the "remove". I
> did
> this once and within 24 hours I had 10 more emails from the same
> organization. I was told that the remove is an effective way of
> identifying *active* email addresses, and then they are databased, for
>
> later use. SaveTrees (part of Cyberpromo) still doesn't "remove" you.
>
> And if anyone cares, last week (after AGIS disconnected them
> temporarily)
> Cyberpromo announced that it was selling its master database of email
> address, you can buy it for $995.
>
> >I don't think the messages are getting snagged from this list. Just
> my
> >thoughts on the subject... And, if anyone wants a copy of the
> program, let
> >me know... I found it at www.tucows.com -- great resource for
> >free/share/try software...
>
> Tucows specializes in Internet software, Jumbo is much larger and
> covers
> all computing areas... www.jumbo.com .
>
> >Carol
>
> I average about 70 junk emails at my other address,
> mowogmg@dynanet.com.
> This is why I switched providers. Dynanet also happens to be a AGIS
> customer.
>
> <SNIP>
>
> >>Since these are coming from different sources, I have to assume that
>
> >>someone is sell our addresses.
> >>Someone is using this list for commercial purposes.
> >>That is strictly against the rules of this list.
> >>Please stop.
>
> Well if they are making money, I doubt they will stop...and it is
> unlikely
> that a person is selling the addresses. It may be some little
> software
> program called a spider that looks for email addresses on the
> Internet.
>
> Ok Trevor, I know you'll find something wrong with my message...so add
> your
> stuff too
> ;-)
>
> If anyone wants more information email me at:
>
> kmr@pil.net
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kai Radicke -- mowogmg@pil.net, 1966 MGB @ http://www.pil.net/~mowogmg
>
> Dialogue Internet - Intelligent Internet Solutions (Net Khan)
>
> IRC: irc.voicenet.com, #inet-access (my nick: ActiveX or KMR)
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