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RE: [oletrucks] Rust

To: "'Chevy Trucks'" <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [oletrucks] Rust
From: Richard Kinas <rkinas@ctinet.net>
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 21:55:18 -0500
Now, let me tell you a story about a former POR15 believer. POR15 should 
only be used on very rough surfaces. I painted some parts with POR15 about 
3 years ago. I painted both cleaned new stamped steel (replacement panels) 
and some rusty surface on the cab floor which I just wire brushed and 
vacuumed up. Well since that time I decided to do a frame off restoration. 
And upon blasting the POR15 painted stamped steel, which still looked good 
with the paint on it, the POR15 blew off in sheets as large as coffee cups. 
My jaw dropped! This was a quick single pass at 40 PSI! And what was clean 
bare metal when the POR15 was applied was now covered with light surface 
rust. On the floor of the cab, it did adhere better, it took a couple of 
passes to blow it off, and the sheets were smaller.

My experience with POR15 has me SPOOKED to the point that I will no longer 
use this product. The original paint has proved the toughest to remove and 
that is what I will be going with.

1959 Chevrolet Apache      ____    3100
                     __________/___/\_____
Rich Kinas    |::::::::::::::> |       |    ----- )
Orlando, FL   "-------( 0 )---------------( 0 )-"

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From:   Rob, Margie, Nick & Andrea[SMTP:rjj0msj@ix.netcom.com]
Reply To:       Rob, Margie, Nick & Andrea
Sent:   Monday, March 08, 1999 8:35 PM
To:     oletrucks@autox.team.net
Subject:        Re: [oletrucks] Rust

On Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:49:49 -0500, you wrote:

>I, too, have used Duro Extend & I've found that it peels off easily.  They
>say that you don't have to remove all rust, just the scaly stuff & then
>apply, but I can't help but think that the rust dust kept it from adhering
>real good.  I did clean much of the rust off before I put it on too.  I
>would try POR 15 before trying Extend again.  From what list members are
>experiencing & what I've seen at shows, it is now the best thing available
>to fight rust.

I will second everything you say, including the peeling off of Extend.  It 
was
almost as if it was more like a rubber cement than a rust killer.  Now 
POR15 is
another story.  It truly lives up to its reputation.  You can't remove it 
if
your life depends on it.

Rob
>
>Regards,
>Doug Pewterbaugh
>dpewter@msn.com
>Denton, TX
>49 3104 216 5-window
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Wayne Osborne <wcosborne@inetnow.net>
>To: oletrucks@autox.team.net <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
>Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 6:35 AM
>Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Rust
>
>
>>I have used the product he mentions called Extend. I've never used
>>the POR 15 that has been discussed on the list before, but I don't see
>>how it can work much better than the Extend.  I've had it on some
>>areas underneath my truck for well over 5 years and the results are
>>still astounding....Wayne
>>
>>
>>At 10:22 AM 3/6/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>>Humidity realy gets us in the southcental area. I had my body andparts
>>> sand blasted. I had the blaster prime the whole thing immediately 
before
>>>it started rusting. A pal of mine did a '57 restoration including sand
>>>blasting. The day he picked really himid and about to rain. According
>>> to him the color of the bear metal changed to a orange/red during the
>>>trailering home.
>>>
>>>I have been getting a good result with a product called "Extend". It
>>>comes in aero and brush. I cut out lots of wasted panel for sure. In
>>> some areas less damaged I cleaned up the loose scale and treated
>>> it with Extend. Its another of those that turn the base metal and
>remaining
>>> rust black, reportedly "bonding" the metal and hard rust together.
>>> Its rock hard and paintable after drying. I have found it at NAPA and
>>> a few other parts stores. I have only one (mild) winter for personal
>>>tests but it looks pretty good.
>>>
>>>Lonnie
>>>one post cancer patient,  '53 Chevy
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Charles Culver <sculver@iwl.net>
>>>To: <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
>>>Sent: Saturday, March 06, 1999 10:29 AM
>>>Subject: Fw: [oletrucks] Rust
>>>
>>>
>>>>Being down here on the coast, we live with rust.  We have a big marine
>>>>industry, and a popular product to use against rust is Ospho.  I've 
used
>>>it,
>>>>and it works great to stop and kill rust.  Actually oxidized the 
existing
>>>>rust, and turns it black.  Then you paint it.  The cost for a half 
gallon
>>>>jug is about $16.  Works for me-
>>>>
>>>>Smokey-League City, Texas (Galveston County)
>>>>'50 3600 5-window
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Advdesign1@aol.com <Advdesign1@aol.com>
>>>>To: rgilbertso@earthlink.net <rgilbertso@earthlink.net>;
>>>>oletrucks@autox.team.net <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
>>>>Date: Saturday, March 06, 1999 3:49 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Rust
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><< Once rust starts does it just continue to spread by itself or does 
it
>>>>> need to have more moisture to spread?  >>
>>>>>
>>>>>It will continue to spread.  this is called creep.  the rate of creep
>>>>depends
>>>>>on humidity,  composition of steel, and adhesion  of paint.  I believe
>>>>>permeability of paint ot oxygen is also a factor  but never saw this
>>>>>discussed.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bob ADler
>>>>>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 
1959
>>>>
>>>>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
>>>>
>>>
>>>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
>>>
>>
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>>                 http://www.chevytrucks.org/users/wayne
>>For a quick view of oletrucks mailing list members trucks go to:
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>>
>>
>>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
>
>
>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959

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