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RE: [oletrucks] Rust

To: Richard Kinas <rkinas@ctinet.net>,
Subject: RE: [oletrucks] Rust
From: jvanho01@tir.com
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 20:31:30 -0500
The folks at POR15 will tell you that it works best on rusted metal, but if
you use it on new metal you need to use a prep that they provide.  If used
properly POR15 will do the job and is almost impossible to remove.  I have
used it and will continue to use it.

Jim V.

At 09:55 PM 3/8/99 Monday -0500, Richard Kinas wrote:
>
>Now, let me tell you a story about a former POR15 believer. POR15 should 
>only be used on very rough surfaces. I painted some parts with POR15 about 
>3 years ago. I painted both cleaned new stamped steel (replacement panels) 
>and some rusty surface on the cab floor which I just wire brushed and 
>vacuumed up. Well since that time I decided to do a frame off restoration. 
>And upon blasting the POR15 painted stamped steel, which still looked good 
>with the paint on it, the POR15 blew off in sheets as large as coffee cups. 
>My jaw dropped! This was a quick single pass at 40 PSI! And what was clean 
>bare metal when the POR15 was applied was now covered with light surface 
>rust. On the floor of the cab, it did adhere better, it took a couple of 
>passes to blow it off, and the sheets were smaller.
>
>My experience with POR15 has me SPOOKED to the point that I will no longer 
>use this product. The original paint has proved the toughest to remove and 
>that is what I will be going with.
>
>1959 Chevrolet Apache      ____    3100
>                     __________/___/\_____
>Rich Kinas    |::::::::::::::> |       |    ----- )
>Orlando, FL   "-------( 0 )---------------( 0 )-"
>
>----------
>From:  Rob, Margie, Nick & Andrea[SMTP:rjj0msj@ix.netcom.com]
>Reply To:      Rob, Margie, Nick & Andrea
>Sent:  Monday, March 08, 1999 8:35 PM
>To:    oletrucks@autox.team.net
>Subject:       Re: [oletrucks] Rust
>
>On Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:49:49 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>I, too, have used Duro Extend & I've found that it peels off easily.  They
>>say that you don't have to remove all rust, just the scaly stuff & then
>>apply, but I can't help but think that the rust dust kept it from adhering
>>real good.  I did clean much of the rust off before I put it on too.  I
>>would try POR 15 before trying Extend again.  From what list members are
>>experiencing & what I've seen at shows, it is now the best thing available
>>to fight rust.
>
>I will second everything you say, including the peeling off of Extend.  It 
>was
>almost as if it was more like a rubber cement than a rust killer.  Now 
>POR15 is
>another story.  It truly lives up to its reputation.  You can't remove it 
>if
>your life depends on it.
>
>Rob
>>
>>Regards,
>>Doug Pewterbaugh
>>dpewter@msn.com
>>Denton, TX
>>49 3104 216 5-window
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Wayne Osborne <wcosborne@inetnow.net>
>>To: oletrucks@autox.team.net <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
>>Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 6:35 AM
>>Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Rust
>>
>>
>>>I have used the product he mentions called Extend. I've never used
>>>the POR 15 that has been discussed on the list before, but I don't see
>>>how it can work much better than the Extend.  I've had it on some
>>>areas underneath my truck for well over 5 years and the results are
>>>still astounding....Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>>At 10:22 AM 3/6/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>>>Humidity realy gets us in the southcental area. I had my body andparts
>>>> sand blasted. I had the blaster prime the whole thing immediately 
>before
>>>>it started rusting. A pal of mine did a '57 restoration including sand
>>>>blasting. The day he picked really himid and about to rain. According
>>>> to him the color of the bear metal changed to a orange/red during the
>>>>trailering home.
>>>>
>>>>I have been getting a good result with a product called "Extend". It
>>>>comes in aero and brush. I cut out lots of wasted panel for sure. In
>>>> some areas less damaged I cleaned up the loose scale and treated
>>>> it with Extend. Its another of those that turn the base metal and
>>remaining
>>>> rust black, reportedly "bonding" the metal and hard rust together.
>>>> Its rock hard and paintable after drying. I have found it at NAPA and
>>>> a few other parts stores. I have only one (mild) winter for personal
>>>>tests but it looks pretty good.
>>>>
>>>>Lonnie
>>>>one post cancer patient,  '53 Chevy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Charles Culver <sculver@iwl.net>
>>>>To: <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, March 06, 1999 10:29 AM
>>>>Subject: Fw: [oletrucks] Rust
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Being down here on the coast, we live with rust.  We have a big marine
>>>>>industry, and a popular product to use against rust is Ospho.  I've 
>used
>>>>it,
>>>>>and it works great to stop and kill rust.  Actually oxidized the 
>existing
>>>>>rust, and turns it black.  Then you paint it.  The cost for a half 
>gallon
>>>>>jug is about $16.  Works for me-
>>>>>
>>>>>Smokey-League City, Texas (Galveston County)
>>>>>'50 3600 5-window
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Advdesign1@aol.com <Advdesign1@aol.com>
>>>>>To: rgilbertso@earthlink.net <rgilbertso@earthlink.net>;
>>>>>oletrucks@autox.team.net <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
>>>>>Date: Saturday, March 06, 1999 3:49 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Rust
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><< Once rust starts does it just continue to spread by itself or does 
>it
>>>>>> need to have more moisture to spread?  >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It will continue to spread.  this is called creep.  the rate of creep
>>>>>depends
>>>>>>on humidity,  composition of steel, and adhesion  of paint.  I believe
>>>>>>permeability of paint ot oxygen is also a factor  but never saw this
>>>>>>discussed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bob ADler
>>>>>>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 
>1959
>>>>>
>>>>>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
>>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
>>
>>
>>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
>
>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
>
>
>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959

Jim V. - '58 GMC Suburban Carrier Pickup V8 Automatic
oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959

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