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RE: Crank & axle ID help

To: Bryan Vandiver <Bryan.Vandiver@Eng.Sun.COM>
Subject: RE: Crank & axle ID help
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:15:17 -0400
Cc: Gerard Chateauvieux <pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com>, spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> charset=ISO-8859-1
It wasn't that uncommon to cross drill a crank during the heyday of the
Spridgets.  It might not be an EN40B crank at all, but a good old sturdy
plain jane 1275 crank.  Even the stock not cross drilled cranks are a
pretty robust device and those who wanted it cross drilled so the rods
wouldn't starve for oil at very high RPM's, did just that.  Many then
nitrided the cranks after working them over.  Cost wasn't always a factor
for some people.

Paul A

FROM:   Bryan Vandiver, INTERNET:Bryan.Vandiver at Eng.Sun.COM
TO:     Gerard Chateauvieux, INTERNET:pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com
        Bryan Vandiver, INTERNET:Bryan.Vandiver@Eng.Sun.COM
        (unknown), INTERNET:Andrew.Griffith@ReadRite.com
CC:     spridgets, INTERNET:spridgets@autox.team.net
DATE:   8/9/00 12:50 PM

Re:     RE: Crank & axle  ID help

 
Gerard,

I'm somewhat confused, since early postings seemed to indicate that only
the 
EN40B crank was cross drilled??
I don't know if it was the 'orginal' crank that was 'shipped in the engine.
The 
1275 I had was in my tub, when I bought my car, so I have no history on my 
engine. The crank I have was indeed cross drilled at 45degree angles
between 
each journal, and according to the number plate on the block, and using VB 
reference in the front of their catalogs, it does appear to be made in '71.

 - Bryan
 
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>Subject: RE: Crank & axle  ID help
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>Bryan,
>
>EN40B cranks were only in early 1275s ('67) and not for the entire years
>run. I was asking around on this one last week and here's what I culled
>from the responses.
>
>* 12CC serial number prefix
>* cross drilled rod journals
>* metal may appear rose colored
>* casting number is illegible beyond the beginning and ending
numbers/letters
>
>>From OSM, "Very early engines from 12CC-DAH-1386 to 1397 and 1842
onwards,
>used a steel EN40B nitrided crank, but this was replaced at some
>unspecified point by a Tuftrided EN16T crank." Pg. 99.
>
>Gerard
>
>At 4:05 PM -0700 8/8/00, Andrew.Griffith@ReadRite.com wrote:
>>Bryan,
>>Was that you (rdbh@aol.com) who out bid me, while I was stuck in traffic,
>>for that set of "EN17 EOBTA 806" Axels on Ebay yesterday?
>>At any rate... the seller said they were out of a 77 midget.
>>
>>And as long as we're on the subject of axels... I remember hearing that
>>there was an early run of spridget axels that were no good or there was a
>>cutoff year when they started using a better grade of steel. Does anyone
>>know which axels are the ones NOT to use?
>>Thanks,
>>
>>-Drew in San Jose
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Bryan Vandiver [mailto:Bryan.Vandiver@Eng.Sun.COM]
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:32 PM
>>To: nosimport@mailbag.com; spritenut@Exit109.com
>>Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net; team-thicko@autox.team.net
>>Subject: Re: Crank & axle ID help
>>
>>
>>For future reference....
>>What years did the produce the EN40B crank??
>>The one in my 1275 was cross drilled. I believe my 1275 came out of a '71
>>midget
>>according to the engine serial number.
>>Also for what years did they use the en17 BTA axels?
>>I think I got my set out of a '78 midget.
>>
>>regards - Bryan
>>
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>>>To: "Peter C." <nosimport@mailbag.com>
>>>CC: spridgets@autox.team.net, team-thicko@autox.team.net
>>>Subject: Re: Crank & axle  ID help
>>>
>>>"Peter C." wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh most knowledgeable ones,
>>>>         An "acquaintance" with literally stacks of 948 cranks and
axles
>>is
>>asking
>>>> what are the casting/forging numbers on the most desirable crankshafts
>>and
>>>> axle shafts. These must be the numbers found on the pieces themselves.
>>>>         Please, check your cranks.
>>>>         Thanks     Peter C
>>>
>>>For the axles, EN17 BTA is the harder ones.
>>>For cranks, I don't think there any choices on 948s but I could be
>>>wrong.
>>>EN40B is the hardened 1275 crank it has cross drilled oil holes for easy
>>>identification.
>>>--
>>>Frank Clarici
>>>Toms River, NJ
>>>The bug in the rice bowl
>>>http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut
>
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Subject: RE: Crank & axle  ID help
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