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Re: Re[2]: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think)

To: <Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us>, "noji" <noji@snowman.med.umn.edu>,
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think)
From: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 20:50:01 -0400
I stand correceted it is 135HP on the 2L. Sorry if I hurt anybody's
feelings -(

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: <Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us>
To: noji <noji@snowman.med.umn.edu>; <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>;
datsunmike <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:00 PM
Subject: Re[2]: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think)


> Mike,
>
> Yes I've heard that they use net hp today. But wasn't the stock 2L listed
> as 135HP? (Not 125HP.) So you couldn't possibly mean that net HP is closer
> to 100HP. More likely 110-115?
>
> Also, I've heard Les Cannaday and Marc Sayer mentioning that shedding
> weight on the roadster can buy you more HP. Along with some other engine
> improvements. I think every 10 pounds shed can buy 1HP. So we don't have
to
> get dejected thinking that we're stuck at the lower figures. I've done a
> few things to my SU 2000 so that it stands up very well to a Solex 2000.
> (Right, Michael? ;> )  So it's conceivable that you can squeeze out much
> higher HP on a stock roadster.
>
> Fred - So.SF
> BADROC
>
> ________________________ Reply Separator ___________________________
> Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think)
> Author:  "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
> Date:    10/27/2000 7:13 PM
>
>
> Dana,
>
> That's exactly right and a point I was going to bring up. Those 150HP
> Solexes are SAE GROSS HP figures, not NET figures as used today.
>
> For us older guys remember when in 1972 all the HP figures dropped for all
> the muscle cars?? Chevy 350/300HP cars went to 350/210HP, the Z28 went
from
> 350/370 to 350/270. That was because they went from gross to net HP
ratings.
> The same happened to the Japanese cars. The 125HP 2L was probably closer
to
> 100HP and the 1600 probably closer to 80HP or maybe 75HP.
>
> FWIW,
> Mike
>
> PS - The soft top action is great too! Takes me about 1.5 minutes to put
it
> up and about 1 to take it down.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: noji <noji@snowman.med.umn.edu>
> To: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> Cc: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think)
>
>
> > Roadster Folks,
> >
> > I thought there was a difference between the current measurement of HP
> > now and when our cars were made (wheels vrs engine).  So wouldn't a
> > current 155 HP have a lot more power (given similar weights) than an
> > 1969 155 HP car?
> >
> > Dana
> >
> > PS If nothing else I would love to have a soft top that goes up as
> > easily  and seals as well as a Miata's.
> >
> >
> >
> > datsunmike wrote:
> > >
> > > The new 2001 Miata has 155 HP SAE. I doubt that most Roadsters,
> including
> > > Solex models, would be able to keep up with it although off the line
the
> > > Roadster might be able to take it because of torque and cubic inches
but
> the
> > > six speed tranny does have a lower 1st gear so it may be close. With
> 116HP
> > > my car tops out at about 115, with 155HP it's probably closer to 130
or
> so.
> > >
> > > In the handling department there is no comparision. the Miata is much
> > > stiffer and well balanced than any Roadster I have ever driven and has
> > > better steering. My Konied, sway barred, Miata will blow most
Roadsters
> away
> > > in the corners, except for Calspeed.
> > >
> > > I'm not talking about race cars here but street cars.
> > >
> > > 30+ years of technology has made the Miata a great car. Mine is a 91
and
> the
> > > 2001 Miatas are supposed to be much stiffer and better handling. While
I
> > > love my Roadster, I also love my Miata.
> > >
> > > IMHO,
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Stephen McCartney <sgam@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:19 PM
> > > Subject: Mazda MX5 (Miata, I think)
> > >
> > > > I just read that Mazda are bringing out a new model of MX5 (which
most
> > > > people here call a Miata, right?) that will bring it's power up to
> about
> > > > 112kw, IIRC.
> > > >
> > > > So now it's on par with a Solex 2000?
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone here got experiences in taking on these things?  I'd
assume
> the
> > > > Mazda would handle better, but maybe isn't as quick?  I'd never
> thought
> > > that
> > > > I could beat one, but on paper, it's looking possible...
> > > >
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