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Re: Race car or street car?

To: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Race car or street car?
From: Vicki Burrows <gregnvicki@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:40:00 -0800
Continuing with this line of questioning... anyone know what the 200sx came 
with for
a final drive?  Will it bolt in to a Roadster housing? (not concerned with drive
shaft at this point... will be custom anyway).  Any thoughts on changes to 
unsprung
weight with this set up (i.e. stock size axles with drum brakes vs larger 
diameter
axles with discs)?  There is a reason behind this madness.... and it involves 
about
230+ hp...
Greg

Gordon Glasgow wrote:

> We never had any trouble with axles or gears in the race car, but that was
> "only" 180-200 hp. And Dennis (Peters) was a pretty smooth driver. If you beat
> on it enough, it will break - trust me!
>
> The 200SX axles are bigger, same as the trucks. 30mm diameter x 29 teeth, vs.
> 24mm x 23 teeth.
>
> As to clutches, I've never had any problems with the stock unit even with 
>fairly
> modified engines, but I'd use an aftermarket one in a race car.
>
> Gordon Glasgow
> Renton, WA
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Vicki Burrows
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:58 PM
> > To: Patrick J. Horne
> > Cc: Andrew Murphy; bholland@hayes.ds.adp.com; ambradley@yahoo.com;
> > datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: Race car or street car?
> >
> >
> > Regarding the whole LSD thing (not the drug mind you), did any solid
> > axial 200sx's
> > come with a LSD as an option?  Also, any input as to improvements in
> > strength or
> > anything with the 200sx diffs? Are the axials stronger?  I know that
> > they can be
> > swapped to add the rear discs (I think they have to be cut, right?).  How 
>much
> > power can the stock Roadster axials and diff take?  Also, any feedback on
> > different clutch pressure plates and discs would be appreciated... looking 
>for
> > good street clutch that can put the power down.
> > Greg
> >
> > "Patrick J. Horne" wrote:
> >
> > > Andrew,
> > >
> > > As I understand it the geometry of the ring and pinion has to be quite
> > > accurate and each ring/pinion/carrier is slightly different. Iven if you
> > > just change the bearings on the pinion you generally need to reshim
> > > things, so changing to a different set of gears will probably throw things
> > > off even farther. I had to shim one ring/pinion set years ago and it took
> > > a fair amount of patience and trial and error, but it is not rocket
> > > science, just time consuming. You also need to purchase more shims than
> > > you need so you will have what you need on hand when you start!
> > >
> > > Peace,
> > > Pat
> > >
> > > - Support Habitat for Humanity, A "hand up", not a "hand out" -
> > >
> > > Pat Horne, Network Manager, Shop Supervisor, Future planner
> > > CS Dept, University of Texas, Austin, Tx. 78712 USA
> > > voice (512)471-9730, fax (512)471-8885, horne@cs.utexas.edu
> > >
> > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Andrew Murphy wrote:
> > >
> > > > This was the question I put out to my tech buddies: If I purchased a 
>posi
> > > > spool could I just drop it into my 3.7 diff and away I go?
> > Answers came back
> > > > about having to install shims for backlash and other things like the 
>fact
> > > > that the offset on the spool varies and that some can modified
> > with spacers.
> > > > As far as I can tell, it's not as easy as just dropping a posi spool 
>into
> > > > your diff.
> > > >
> > > > I had originally thought a 3.7 LSD would be great as I could get my
> > > > positraction without having to deal with high RPMS at freeway
> > speed. Perhaps
> > > > a 3.9 LSD would be the way to go.
> > > >
> > > > Andrew Murphy
> > > > SoCalROC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: "Brian Hollands" <bholland@hayes.ds.adp.com>
> > > > Reply-To: "Brian Hollands" <bholland@hayes.ds.adp.com>
> > > > To: "Adam Bradley" <ambradley@yahoo.com>
> > > > CC: "Datsun Roadster Mailing list" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > > > Subject: RE: Race car or street car?
> > > > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:00:58 -0500
> > > >
> > > > The diff and the ring and pinion are different parts.  You can put a 
>3.90
> > > > ring and pinion onto a limited slip diff.  I currently have one with 
>4.38
> > > > gears and am looking for a 4.11 instead.  The 3.90s are readily 
>available
> > > > used as are the 4.38's.  If you want to find out what 4.38's are
> > like on the
> > > > highway, just leave it in 4th gear (assuming you've got a 5 spd).  The
> > > > overall ratio with 4.38's in 5th gear is 3.72 - almost exactly
> > the same as a
> > > > stock 2000 in 4th.
> > > > Brian '69 2000
> > > > Tampa, FL
> > > > http://web.tampabay.rr.com/oilleak/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Adam Bradley [mailto:ambradley@yahoo.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:42 PM
> > > > To: Brian Hollands; Andrew Murphy
> > > > Cc: Datsun Roadster Mailing list
> > > > Subject: RE: Race car or street car?
> > > >
> > > > Was there a 3.9 LSD? (1600 is 3.9)  Would that be a good compromise?
> > > >
> > > > --- Brian Hollands <bholland@hayes.ds.adp.com> wrote:
> > > >  > Sounds like you need two roadsters
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Brian '69 2000
> > > >  > Tampa, FL
> > > >  > http://web.tampabay.rr.com/oilleak/
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  > -----Original Message-----
> > > >  > From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> > > >  > [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Andrew
> > > >  > Murphy
> > > >  > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:14 PM
> > > >  > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> > > >  > Subject: Race car or street car?
> > > >  >
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