Just a curious question, can the Ferguson liners be used then? When I
phoned around for liners for the '3 I was told I could use the tractor
liners.
Just wondered....
David A. Templeton
Open Text Corp.
Waterloo, ON
Canada
WebSite: http://trandmustang.homestead.com
'74 Triumph SpitSix
'66 Ford Mustang (Wife's)
'59 Triumph TR3a (Project)
'99 GMC Safari
'95 GMC K2500 Sierra
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Dowson" <jdo@star.le.ac.uk>
To: "Richard B Gosling" <Gosling_Richard_B@perkins.com>; "PABowen"
<PABowen@sar.med.navy.mil>
Cc: "npenney" <npenney@mde.state.md.us>; "spitfires"
<spitfires@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: Engine type
>
> Perhaps this may help to clear up the confusion.
>
> The Standard Vanguard 4 cylinder wet linered engine was supplied and
> fitted to Ferguson T20/21 tractors.
>
> It came in diesel versions and petrol/TVO (tractor vapourising oil)
>
> This is the engine that is used in the TR2/3/4.
>
> Many thousands of these tractors were manufactured in several countries
> and they are still common in the UK, although people do seem to be
> restoring them to concours condition.
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> At 07:19 15/06/00 -0500, Richard B Gosling wrote:
>
> >Patrick,
> >
> >The SC engine was first introduced in 1951 in the Standard 8. I am not
aware
> > of it ever having been used in a tractor, and Standard/Triumph never
made
> > tractors (as far as I know). It is possible that they supplied the
> > engine to
> > a separate tractor manufacturer; however, it seems unlikely, as most
> > tractors,
> > by the 1950's, were diesel. I'm not sure exactly when manufacture of
petrol
> > tractors died out, but I have a feeling it was before then - in the UK,
at
> > least.
> >
> >Maybe your machine shop are just having a joke about the age and
basicness of
> > the engine!
> >
> >Richard and Daffy (doesn't sound like a tractor to me...)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >PABowen@sar.med.navy.mil on 15Jun2000 01:05 PM
> >
> >To: Richard B Gosling/1M/Caterpillar@Caterpillar
> >npenney@mde.state.md.us@INTERNET
> >cc: spitfires@autox.team.net@INTERNET
> >Subject: RE: Engine type
> >Retain Until: 15/07/2000 Retention Category: G90 - Information
and
> > Reports
> >Caterpillar Confidential: Green
> >
> >now I have read the history of some of the engines before but of the
> > likes
> >of me cannot remember. Everytime I talk to a machine shop or someone
else
> >they refer to the engine as a tractor engine. From my memory there was a
> >Triumph engine that started out this way but I did not believe it was the
> >Spitfires, could someone set me straight with this. History lesson
please.
> >
> >Patrick Bowen
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Richard B Gosling [mailto:Gosling_Richard_B@perkins.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 4:53 AM
> >To: npenney
> >Cc: spitfires
> >Subject: Re: Engine type
> >
> >
> >
> >Nolan,
> >
> >The engine that ended up in the Spitfire started life fitted to the
Standard
> >8,
> > capacity 803cc, and was known as the SC engine (for small car). It was
> >bored
> > out to 1147 for Mk I and II Spitfire, then stroked to 1296 for the Mk
III
> >and
> > IV, and then 1493 for the 1500. Exactly which versions were also used
in
> > other cars I'm not sure - the Herald used some variation, as did
> > smaller-engined Dolomites (and Toledos?), and the 1500 was used in the
MG
> > Midget 1500 (which had used the Austin A-series engine up to then).
> >
> >No doubt the likes of Graham Stretch and Andy Mace can tell you much more
> >than
> > I can (which is largely taken out of a page in the Moss UK catalogue)
> >
> >Richard and Daffy
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