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Re: [TR] Battery charging

To: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery charging
From: Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:57:57 -0800
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For what it=E2=80=99s worth, here is an opinion from to experts I was =
surprised to hear.  One is a Porsche mechanic who=E2=80=99s been in the =
business for 30+ years.  The Interstate battery had died and even pumped =
out some white power at the end, out a breather tube from the battery.  =
I cleaned it all up well, worried about battery acid in the front truck. =
 I went to the shop, he=E2=80=99s an Interstate distributor as well, and =
bought a new battery and told him what happened, and that I=E2=80=99d =
had the battery connected to a Battery Tender Jr.  He told me that even =
that brand, which is good, is really not good to leave on all the time, =
and it will cook the battery.  He recommends putting it on for a week or =
two, then disconnecting for a week or two, and repeat.  Well that=E2=80=99=
s a pain.

Then in my Airstream trailer which has two 12 volt deep cycle batteries, =
I=E2=80=99ve read that the power converter that comes with the trailer =
also isn=E2=80=99t designed to leave plugged in all the time and it will =
cook the batteries, which did happen.  I tried using a Battery Tender Jr =
on that but it couldn=E2=80=99t deal with 2 batteries.  I was then told =
about an upgrade for the Airsteam power converter on Amazon, about $200 =
or so, which I installed and it does manage the float and it can be left =
plugged in for months and months no problem.

So be careful with Battery Tenders.  I have two Battery Tender Jrs and =
four Die Hard battery tenders for multiple cars, Kubota tractor and a =
boat.  Just be careful how long you leave them plugged in and check the =
water level if it=E2=80=99s not a gel battery.  I have an Optima in my =
Triumph and Kubota.

Good luck,

Rye

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson =
<aljlthomson@charter.net> wrote:
>=20
> Are the batteries still connected to their cars? Maybe there is a =
slight draw on the TR6. Our TR6 took the whole summer off because it =
needs a new wiring harness. There were some wires that had let the smoke =
out! After I drove it into winter storage, I disconnected the ground =
cable and noticed that there was a tiny spark! Something is leaking =
current. Another project to do!
> =20
> Alex Thomson
> =20
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
David Friedlander
> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 3:18 PM
> To: New England Triumphs; TR3 Triumphs
> Subject: [TR] Battery charging
> =20
> Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!
> =20
> I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an Optima =
red top battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems like even =
though each battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to need =
more frequent =E2=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the Optima.... =
Interesting....
> =20
> Dave
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">For =
what it=E2=80=99s worth, here is an opinion from to experts I was =
surprised to hear. &nbsp;One is a Porsche mechanic who=E2=80=99s been in =
the business for 30+ years. &nbsp;The Interstate battery had died and =
even pumped out some white power at the end, out a breather tube from =
the battery. &nbsp;I cleaned it all up well, worried about battery acid =
in the front truck. &nbsp;I went to the shop, he=E2=80=99s an Interstate =
distributor as well, and bought a new battery and told him what =
happened, and that I=E2=80=99d had the battery connected to a Battery =
Tender Jr. &nbsp;He told me that even that brand, which is good, is =
really not good to leave on all the time, and it will cook the battery. =
&nbsp;He recommends putting it on for a week or two, then disconnecting =
for a week or two, and repeat. &nbsp;Well that=E2=80=99s a pain.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Then in my Airstream =
trailer which has two 12 volt deep cycle batteries, I=E2=80=99ve read =
that the power converter that comes with the trailer also isn=E2=80=99t =
designed to leave plugged in all the time and it will cook the =
batteries, which did happen. &nbsp;I tried using a Battery Tender Jr on =
that but it couldn=E2=80=99t deal with 2 batteries. &nbsp;I was then =
told about an upgrade for the Airsteam power converter on Amazon, about =
$200 or so, which I installed and it does manage the float and it can be =
left plugged in for months and months no problem.</div><div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">So be careful with Battery Tenders. =
&nbsp;I have two Battery Tender Jrs and four Die Hard battery tenders =
for multiple cars, Kubota tractor and a boat. &nbsp;Just be careful how =
long you leave them plugged in and check the water level if it=E2=80=99s =
not a gel battery. &nbsp;I have an Optima in my Triumph and =
Kubota.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Good =
luck,</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Rye<br =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Dec 25, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net"; =
class=3D"">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: =
WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
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text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">Are the batteries still connected to their cars? Maybe there =
is a slight draw on the TR6. Our TR6 took the whole summer off because =
it needs a new wiring harness. There were some wires that had let the =
smoke out! After I drove it into winter storage, I disconnected the =
ground cable and noticed that there was a tiny spark! Something is =
leaking current. Another project to do!<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Alex Thomson<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Triumphs =
[<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>David =
Friedlander<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Friday, December 25, 2020 =
3:18 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
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Triumphs<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[TR] Battery charging<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
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class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D"">Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!<o:p =
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class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">I have one =
float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an Optima red top battery =
and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems like even though each =
battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to need more frequent =
=E2=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the Optima.... Interesting....<o:p =
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