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To: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery charging
From: Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:51:29 -0500
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Merry Christmas!  I took my TR3a out today top down with Santa hat in 50 deg=
ree weather.  Brrrr.  But the heater is working well. =20
Cheers,
Jim Henningsen=20
Ocala fl=20

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net=
> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> I forgot to mention =E2=80=93 here it is Christmas night and there are a b=
unch of us chatting about the relative merits of battery chargers, and we ar=
e doing it from each end of the country. This is why I enjoy this crew so mu=
ch. There is just so much genuine help and assistance. We need to always giv=
e Mark Bradakis a big thank-you for keeping the mechanics of this process up=
 and running. Where would we be without his efforts?
> =20
> Have a great Christmas, everyone , as well as a good new year. It=E2=80=99=
s now 8:30 in Connecticut and to all, a good night.
> =20
> Alex Thomson
> =20
> From: Rye Livingston [mailto:ryel@mac.com]=20
> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 6:58 PM
> To: Alex & Janet Thomson
> Cc: David Friedlander; TR3 Triumphs; list Triumph
> Subject: Re: [TR] Battery charging
> =20
> For what it=E2=80=99s worth, here is an opinion from to experts I was surp=
rised to hear.  One is a Porsche mechanic who=E2=80=99s been in the business=
 for 30+ years.  The Interstate battery had died and even pumped out some wh=
ite power at the end, out a breather tube from the battery.  I cleaned it al=
l up well, worried about battery acid in the front truck.  I went to the sho=
p, he=E2=80=99s an Interstate distributor as well, and bought a new battery a=
nd told him what happened, and that I=E2=80=99d had the battery connected to=
 a Battery Tender Jr.  He told me that even that brand, which is good, is re=
ally not good to leave on all the time, and it will cook the battery.  He re=
commends putting it on for a week or two, then disconnecting for a week or t=
wo, and repeat.  Well that=E2=80=99s a pain.
> =20
> Then in my Airstream trailer which has two 12 volt deep cycle batteries, I=
=E2=80=99ve read that the power converter that comes with the trailer also i=
sn=E2=80=99t designed to leave plugged in all the time and it will cook the b=
atteries, which did happen.  I tried using a Battery Tender Jr on that but i=
t couldn=E2=80=99t deal with 2 batteries.  I was then told about an upgrade f=
or the Airsteam power converter on Amazon, about $200 or so, which I install=
ed and it does manage the float and it can be left plugged in for months and=
 months no problem.
> =20
> So be careful with Battery Tenders.  I have two Battery Tender Jrs and fou=
r Die Hard battery tenders for multiple cars, Kubota tractor and a boat.  Ju=
st be careful how long you leave them plugged in and check the water level i=
f it=E2=80=99s not a gel battery.  I have an Optima in my Triumph and Kubota=
.
> =20
> Good luck,
> =20
> Rye
>=20
>=20
> On Dec 25, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net=
> wrote:
> =20
> Are the batteries still connected to their cars? Maybe there is a slight d=
raw on the TR6. Our TR6 took the whole summer off because it needs a new wir=
ing harness. There were some wires that had let the smoke out! After I drove=
 it into winter storage, I disconnected the ground cable and noticed that th=
ere was a tiny spark! Something is leaking current. Another project to do!
> =20
> Alex Thomson
> =20
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David=
 Friedlander
> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 3:18 PM
> To: New England Triumphs; TR3 Triumphs
> Subject: [TR] Battery charging
> =20
> Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!
> =20
> I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an Optima red to=
p battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems like even though each b=
attery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to need more frequent =E2=80=
=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the Optima.... Interesting....
> =20
> Dave
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Merry Christmas! &nbsp;I t=
ook my TR3a out today top down with Santa hat in 50 degree weather. &nbsp;Br=
rrr. &nbsp;But the heater is working well. &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Chee=
rs,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Henningsen&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ocala f=
l&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 25, 2020,=
 at 8:28 PM, Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;aljlthomson@charter.net&gt; wrote:=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:#1F497D">I forgot to mention =E2=80=93 here it is Christmas night a=
nd there are a bunch of us chatting about the relative merits of battery cha=
rgers, and we are doing it from each end of the country. This is why I enjoy=
 this crew so much. There is just so much genuine help and assistance. We ne=
ed to always give Mark Bradakis a big thank-you for keeping the mechanics of=
 this process up and running. Where would we be without his efforts?<o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Have a great Christmas, everyone , as well as a=
 good new year. It=E2=80=99s now 8:30 in Connecticut and to all, a good nigh=
t.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Alex Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D=
"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rye Livingston [=
mailto:ryel@mac.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 25, 2020 6:58 PM<br><=
b>To:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson<br><b>Cc:</b> David Friedlander; TR3 Triu=
mphs; list Triumph<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Battery charging<o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">For what it=E2=80=99s worth, here is an opinion from to experts I=
 was surprised to hear. &nbsp;One is a Porsche mechanic who=E2=80=99s been i=
n the business for 30+ years. &nbsp;The Interstate battery had died and even=
 pumped out some white power at the end, out a breather tube from the batter=
y. &nbsp;I cleaned it all up well, worried about battery acid in the front t=
ruck. &nbsp;I went to the shop, he=E2=80=99s an Interstate distributor as we=
ll, and bought a new battery and told him what happened, and that I=E2=80=99=
d had the battery connected to a Battery Tender Jr. &nbsp;He told me that ev=
en that brand, which is good, is really not good to leave on all the time, a=
nd it will cook the battery. &nbsp;He recommends putting it on for a week or=
 two, then disconnecting for a week or two, and repeat. &nbsp;Well that=E2=80=
=99s a pain.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Then in my Airstream trailer which has two=
 12 volt deep cycle batteries, I=E2=80=99ve read that the power converter th=
at comes with the trailer also isn=E2=80=99t designed to leave plugged in al=
l the time and it will cook the batteries, which did happen. &nbsp;I tried u=
sing a Battery Tender Jr on that but it couldn=E2=80=99t deal with 2 batteri=
es. &nbsp;I was then told about an upgrade for the Airsteam power converter o=
n Amazon, about $200 or so, which I installed and it does manage the float a=
nd it can be left plugged in for months and months no problem.<o:p></o:p></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">So be careful with Battery Tenders. &nbsp;I have two Battery Ten=
der Jrs and four Die Hard battery tenders for multiple cars, Kubota tractor a=
nd a boat. &nbsp;Just be careful how long you leave them plugged in and chec=
k the water level if it=E2=80=99s not a gel battery. &nbsp;I have an Optima i=
n my Triumph and Kubota.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Good luck,<o:p></o:p></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Rye<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p=
></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Dec 25, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Alex &amp; Jan=
et Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net";>aljlthomson@charte=
r.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Are the batteries still c=
onnected to their cars? Maybe there is a slight draw on the TR6. Our TR6 too=
k the whole summer off because it needs a new wiring harness. There were som=
e wires that had let the smoke out! After I drove it into winter storage, I d=
isconnected the ground cable and noticed that there was a tiny spark! Someth=
ing is leaking current. Another project to do!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Alex Thomson</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span class=3D"apple-converte=
d-space"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Triumphs [<a href=3D"mail=
to:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</=
a>]<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span c=
lass=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>David Friedlander<br><b>Sent=
:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Friday, December 25,=
 2020 3:18 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</spa=
n>New England Triumphs; TR3 Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"apple-=
converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[TR] Battery charging</span><o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an Optima r=
ed top battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems like even though e=
ach battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to need more frequent=
 =E2=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the Optima.... Interesting....<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div>=
</div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dave<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&=
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