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Re: [TR] Battery charging

To: Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery charging
From: Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 19:11:30 -0500
Cc: list Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>, Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net>
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I have had same issues with battery tender jr.  They cook batteries if left o=
n too long. You=E2=80=99d think a company would figure this stuff out.
Jim Henningsen

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFFor what it=E2=80=99s worth, here is an opinion from to experts I=
 was surprised to hear.  One is a Porsche mechanic who=E2=80=99s been in the=
 business for 30+ years.  The Interstate battery had died and even pumped ou=
t some white power at the end, out a breather tube from the battery.  I clea=
ned it all up well, worried about battery acid in the front truck.  I went t=
o the shop, he=E2=80=99s an Interstate distributor as well, and bought a new=
 battery and told him what happened, and that I=E2=80=99d had the battery co=
nnected to a Battery Tender Jr.  He told me that even that brand, which is g=
ood, is really not good to leave on all the time, and it will cook the batte=
ry.  He recommends putting it on for a week or two, then disconnecting for a=
 week or two, and repeat.  Well that=E2=80=99s a pain.
>=20
> Then in my Airstream trailer which has two 12 volt deep cycle batteries, I=
=E2=80=99ve read that the power converter that comes with the trailer also i=
sn=E2=80=99t designed to leave plugged in all the time and it will cook the b=
atteries, which did happen.  I tried using a Battery Tender Jr on that but i=
t couldn=E2=80=99t deal with 2 batteries.  I was then told about an upgrade f=
or the Airsteam power converter on Amazon, about $200 or so, which I install=
ed and it does manage the float and it can be left plugged in for months and=
 months no problem.
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> So be careful with Battery Tenders.  I have two Battery Tender Jrs and fou=
r Die Hard battery tenders for multiple cars, Kubota tractor and a boat.  Ju=
st be careful how long you leave them plugged in and check the water level i=
f it=E2=80=99s not a gel battery.  I have an Optima in my Triumph and Kubota=
.
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> Good luck,
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> Rye
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>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.ne=
t> wrote:
>>=20
>> Are the batteries still connected to their cars? Maybe there is a slight d=
raw on the TR6. Our TR6 took the whole summer off because it needs a new wir=
ing harness. There were some wires that had let the smoke out! After I drove=
 it into winter storage, I disconnected the ground cable and noticed that th=
ere was a tiny spark! Something is leaking current. Another project to do!
>> =20
>> Alex Thomson
>> =20
>> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Davi=
d Friedlander
>> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 3:18 PM
>> To: New England Triumphs; TR3 Triumphs
>> Subject: [TR] Battery charging
>> =20
>> Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!
>> =20
>> I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an Optima red t=
op battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems like even though each=
 battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to need more frequent =E2=
=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the Optima.... Interesting....
>> =20
>> Dave
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">I have had same issues wit=
h battery tender jr. &nbsp;They cook batteries if left on too long. You=E2=80=
=99d think a company would figure this stuff out.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim H=
enningsen</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 25, 202=
0, at 7:00 PM, Rye Livingston &lt;ryel@mac.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquot=
e></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=
=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">For what it=E2=80=99=
s worth, here is an opinion from to experts I was surprised to hear. &nbsp;O=
ne is a Porsche mechanic who=E2=80=99s been in the business for 30+ years. &=
nbsp;The Interstate battery had died and even pumped out some white power at=
 the end, out a breather tube from the battery. &nbsp;I cleaned it all up we=
ll, worried about battery acid in the front truck. &nbsp;I went to the shop,=
 he=E2=80=99s an Interstate distributor as well, and bought a new battery an=
d told him what happened, and that I=E2=80=99d had the battery connected to a=
 Battery Tender Jr. &nbsp;He told me that even that brand, which is good, is=
 really not good to leave on all the time, and it will cook the battery. &nb=
sp;He recommends putting it on for a week or two, then disconnecting for a w=
eek or two, and repeat. &nbsp;Well that=E2=80=99s a pain.<div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Then in my Airstream trailer which has two=
 12 volt deep cycle batteries, I=E2=80=99ve read that the power converter th=
at comes with the trailer also isn=E2=80=99t designed to leave plugged in al=
l the time and it will cook the batteries, which did happen. &nbsp;I tried u=
sing a Battery Tender Jr on that but it couldn=E2=80=99t deal with 2 batteri=
es. &nbsp;I was then told about an upgrade for the Airsteam power converter o=
n Amazon, about $200 or so, which I installed and it does manage the float a=
nd it can be left plugged in for months and months no problem.</div><div cla=
ss=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">So be careful with Battery Tend=
ers. &nbsp;I have two Battery Tender Jrs and four Die Hard battery tenders f=
or multiple cars, Kubota tractor and a boat. &nbsp;Just be careful how long y=
ou leave them plugged in and check the water level if it=E2=80=99s not a gel=
 battery. &nbsp;I have an Optima in my Triumph and Kubota.</div><div class=3D=
""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Good luck,</div><div class=3D""><br c=
lass=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Rye<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><block=
quote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec 25, 2020, at 2:21 PM, A=
lex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net"; class=
=3D"">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interch=
ange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div class=3D=
"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-=
family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: n=
ormal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-=
indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -=
webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style=3D"margin:=
 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Are the batteries still connected to their ca=
rs? Maybe there is a slight draw on the TR6. Our TR6 took the whole summer o=
ff because it needs a new wiring harness. There were some wires that had let=
 the smoke out! After I drove it into winter storage, I disconnected the gro=
und cable and noticed that there was a tiny spark! Something is leaking curr=
ent. Another project to do!<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"=
margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roma=
n&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
 color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></d=
iv><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Cal=
ibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Alex Thomson<o:p clas=
s=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:=
 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span st=
yle=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"=
"><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0=
001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" cl=
ass=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, s=
ans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-=
family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space=
">&nbsp;</span>Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; c=
lass=3D"">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]<span class=3D"Apple-co=
nverted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf Of<span class=3D"Apple-c=
onverted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>David Friedlander<br class=3D""><b class=3D=
"">Sent:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Friday, Decem=
ber 25, 2020 3:18 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span class=3D"Apple=
-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>New England Triumphs; TR3 Triumphs<br class=3D=
""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</s=
pan>[TR] Battery charging<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"ma=
rgin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;, serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"ma=
rgin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;, serif;" class=3D"">Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!<o:p class=3D""></o:=
p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 1=
2pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=
=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0=
.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" c=
lass=3D"">I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an Optim=
a red top battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems like even thou=
gh each battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to need more freq=
uent =E2=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the Optima.... Interesting....<o:p cl=
ass=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0=
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"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Rom=
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