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1. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: WSpohn4@aol.com; Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:36:40 EST; Sure, the first guy, but what about the rest of them? I understand that the Porsche guys have been allowed to use later engines at Seattle, claiming that it is hard to find the proper original 2 litr; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00231.html (9,847 bytes)
2. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: Tombread@aol.com; Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:41:24 EST; Ought to remove the incentive for cheating, wouldn't you think? It isn't racing if it isn't legal. Tom Butters The Greens Fork Group Creative Communications Services 765-886-5098 public relations & m; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00233.html (8,159 bytes)
3. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: "Roger Sieling" <Rogsie@telesistech.com>; Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:02:42 -0500; But Bill, we do call it racing. When it is a race, the field has to be made relatively flat, and the best way is to have the right engine. Who's going to say the one person's 300HP 289 V8 is low tune; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00236.html (10,663 bytes)
4. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: WSpohn4@aol.com; Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:45:49 EST; That's another, and different, issue - many (most?) people now vintage racing never raced in SCCA or CASC racing. Many of them are out there having a high speed tour - I call them roving chicanes (RC; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00237.html (9,210 bytes)
5. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: Dennis J Shea <djshea11@juno.com>; Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:09:51 -0500; Once I was telling an old SCCA racer that the Porches were hard to beat with my Triumph and he laughed at meand said "boy you must have the worlds slowest Triumph. Dennis ____________________________; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00238.html (7,967 bytes)
6. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: "Mark Palmer" <mgvrmark@hotmail.com>; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:00:01 -0000; Your comment "you have to be at absolute peak attention for a half an hour, running at the ragged edge, not wasting a tenth of a second that you can help" implies a relationship between attentivenes; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00239.html (11,035 bytes)
7. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: John.Desantis@inficon.com; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:47:55 -0500; "To each his own, I guess. For me, the concerns would be: Are they racing safely, do the cars make a nice period spectacle from the trackside, are the drivers having fun..."; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00244.html (8,060 bytes)
8. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: "Roger Sieling" <Rogsie@telesistech.com>; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:12:21 -0500; There are RC's at all levels of racing. There are even people who make it to the SCCA runoffs who are lapped within 5 laps of the start. These people, I'm sure have no hope or vision of standing on; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00245.html (11,498 bytes)
9. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: John.Desantis@inficon.com; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:25:27 -0500; "Ought to remove the incentive for cheating, wouldn't you think? It isn't racing if it isn't legal." If you really believe this, read Mark Donohue's book "The Unfair Advantage". Here is a man who ros; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00246.html (8,615 bytes)
10. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: Tombread@aol.com; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:42:16 EST; I made my statement in the context of vintage racing, where the rewards are mainly self satisfaction. It cannot be particularly rewarding to cheat in vintage. That's a bit like cheating at solitaire.; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00247.html (9,466 bytes)
11. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: John.Desantis@inficon.com; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:52:34 -0500; "I made my statement in the context of vintage racing, where the rewards are mainly self satisfaction. It cannot be particularly rewarding to cheat in vintage. That's a bit like cheating at solitaire; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00249.html (9,357 bytes)
12. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: S800Racer@aol.com; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:05:44 EST; << If you really believe this, read Mark Donohue's book "The Unfair Advantage". Here is a man who rose to the top of our sport with the philosophy of making himself and his cars "BETTER" than the nex; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00250.html (9,175 bytes)
13. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: WSpohn4@aol.com; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:34:55 EST; Yes, I know - I'm one of them, when placed in a much faster grid. I agree - if you are doing it right, there should be very little contact. Body contact happens when someone fails to 'do it right'. I; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00251.html (13,110 bytes)
14. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: S800Racer@aol.com; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:10:24 EST; << I understand that the Porsche guys have been allowed to use later engines at Seattle, claiming that it is hard to find the proper original 2 litre versions. I don't know if this is a valid claim,; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00252.html (9,051 bytes)
15. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: WSpohn4@aol.com; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:51:36 EST; My suspicion as well, Doug. We both have harder to find stuff in our cars. The Porker drivers could find the stuff if the wanted to try. BTW, I've always liked the S800 - used to beat one regularly i; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00254.html (9,149 bytes)
16. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: WSpohn4@aol.com; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:02:36 EST; Just what I would hope everyone in vintage would do - I certainly would, though likely muttering imprecations into my Nomex). I've been using SCCA, as it's more familiar to most on the group, even th; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00255.html (10,386 bytes)
17. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: Susan and John Roper <vscjohn@huntnet.net>; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:23:08 -0600; Have much enjoyed this discussion, probably because I agree. I began with the SCCA in the early 60's. At that time we believed that talented pilots would be known by the absense of contact with compe; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00257.html (8,965 bytes)
18. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: "Robert Allred" <rallred@inconnect.com>; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:31:32 -0700; Interesting thread. I would add to Roger's thought..."and there will always be someone with more or less money, time, and energy, than you..." It isn't just talent that separates consistent front run; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00258.html (10,786 bytes)
19. Re: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: S800Racer@aol.com; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:49:51 EST; << BTW, I've always liked the S800 - used to beat one regularly in hillclimbs, but the thing was a jewel of an engine and sure sounds nice at full cry! >> I'm sure it was your superior SCCA-level 10/; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00259.html (8,956 bytes)
20. RE: Rules and 'Cheating' (score: 1): Author: Sadek Charles H DLVA <SadekCH@nswc.navy.mil>; Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:34:48 -0500; Chuck Sadek snip snip; /html/vintage-race/2001-01/msg00262.html (9,980 bytes)

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