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RE: Team Rules (RE: TLH Tears it up in Marina)

To: navid@interwoven.com, Scot Zediker <roadsterboy@earthlink.net>,
Subject: RE: Team Rules (RE: TLH Tears it up in Marina)
From: Andy McKee <andrewmckee@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:13:54 -0800 (PST)
Hmm, maybe I should mention that Teresa, Derek, Chris McKinney, and myself were
all competing as covert members of Team Mid Engine.  Anyway, I wouldn't look at
my PAX times, as I never had a good "clean" run.

-Andy


--- Navid Kahangi <nkahangi@interwoven.com> wrote:
> I demand to have a corded tire index.  If not, I'll go for Carl's Prosolo
> approach.  Heck, I took 4 whole seconds off of my official best time in my
> fun runs :)
> 
> Hey Scot, the sad part is, even if you and I lied about having street tires,
> we still wouldn't be able to touch Andy and Derek's PAX times.
> 
> --Navid
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Scot Zediker
> > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 4:17 PM
> > To: Carl Merritt; 'James Creasy'; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: Team Rules (RE: TLH Tears it up in Marina)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Carl Merritt" <cmerritt@ati.com>
> > To: "'James Creasy'" <black94pgt@pacbell.net>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:15 PM
> > Subject: Team Rules (RE: TLH Tears it up in Marina)
> >
> >
> > > Ah, well, we would have to agree on some rules first... (remember, we
> > > shelved that discussion until AFTER the race =P.
> > >
> > > Here's my suggestion:
> > >
> > > First off, we need to talk about the number of teams.  Not that
> > it really
> > > matters, but Team Sloth might want to develop some sort of
> > political rift
> > > (BMW snobs pulling out and forming their own team?) since they are much
> > > bigger than TLH.
> >
> > That would work for me.  Split 'em into Team Sloth and Team
> > Avarice!  (those
> > are the only two of the Seven Deadly Sins I can remember)
> >
> > > Derive an average index for each team.  Since there are quite a few
> > drivers
> > > that are using street tires, I would recommend we apply an additional
> > street
> > > tire index.  The easy way to get this index is take Street Touring and
> > > subtract Street Touring S's index from it and you get .027, or 1.62
> > seconds
> > > per 60 seconds (a conservative number, but not bad and better than
> > nothing).
> > > So my ESP 300ZX's index would fall from a .822 to a .795.
> >
> > I think a better approach is to DIVIDE the STS index by that for STR.  I
> > came up with a "street tire multiplier" of .967, which changes your Z's
> > index to... well, to .795.  Okay, for most of us it works out the same
> > either way, but I like my approach better.  So there! :-b
> >
> > But then the problem we run into is, are these people claiming to be on
> > street tires actually on street tires?  For instance, I could lie about
> > running my streets yesterday at Marina.  If we adopt a modified index for
> > street tires, I would end up with a PAX time that would look more
> > appropriate for Andy McKee than myself if I told such a lie and
> > you fell for
> > it (not that I think you would).  I like this approach in
> > principle, but it
> > may require a little too much policing for a friendly competition such as
> > this one.  This is just for fun after all.
> >
> > > Next, (and I'm sure I'm going to get lots of flack for this
> > idea) I would
> > > suggest that we approach this kinda like a Pro-Solo finale...take the
> > > average indexed time for each team and apply a handicap modifier so that
> > all
> > > teams fished with an IDENTICAL time for this first event.  Then for the
> > next
> > > two events, each team to win has to IMPROVE their times against how they
> > did
> > > in the first event because of the handicap index set in the first event.
> > > Make sense?
> >
> > I don't really like this idea.  It just mucks things up too much.
> >
> > This is a good start, though.  We can probably come up with a workable
> > scoring system about the time they finally decide who will be President ;)
> >
> > Scot - Leader of the Long-Haired Freaky People (at least that's what Katie
> > K. called me) and SFR's Resident Burnout King
> > '91 CS Miata
> > Team Longhair


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