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RE: Team Rules (RE: TLH Tears it up in Marina)

To: navid@interwoven.com, Scot Zediker <roadsterboy@earthlink.net>,
Subject: RE: Team Rules (RE: TLH Tears it up in Marina)
From: Carl Merritt <cmerritt@ati.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 21:06:02 -0800
> Hmm, maybe I should mention that Teresa, Derek, Chris McKinney, and myself
were
> all competing as covert members of Team Mid Engine.  

Oh, you'll be in trouble then!  Just wait until there's a course design
unfriendly to mid engined cars!  Like...uh....like....hmmm....with corners
shaped like...eeerm...well.....

> Anyway, I wouldn't look at
> my PAX times, as I never had a good "clean" run.

We could always complicate maters further and give everybody a free cone.
This would add much entertainment as well all tried to figure out which was
the most beneficial cone to whack...  =)

-Carl



> --- Navid Kahangi <nkahangi@interwoven.com> wrote:
> > I demand to have a corded tire index.  If not, I'll go for Carl's
> Prosolo
> > approach.  Heck, I took 4 whole seconds off of my official best time in
> my
> > fun runs :)
> > 
> > Hey Scot, the sad part is, even if you and I lied about having street
> tires,
> > we still wouldn't be able to touch Andy and Derek's PAX times.
> > 
> > --Navid
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Scot Zediker
> > > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 4:17 PM
> > > To: Carl Merritt; 'James Creasy'; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: Team Rules (RE: TLH Tears it up in Marina)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Carl Merritt" <cmerritt@ati.com>
> > > To: "'James Creasy'" <black94pgt@pacbell.net>;
> <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:15 PM
> > > Subject: Team Rules (RE: TLH Tears it up in Marina)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ah, well, we would have to agree on some rules first... (remember,
> we
> > > > shelved that discussion until AFTER the race =P.
> > > >
> > > > Here's my suggestion:
> > > >
> > > > First off, we need to talk about the number of teams.  Not that
> > > it really
> > > > matters, but Team Sloth might want to develop some sort of
> > > political rift
> > > > (BMW snobs pulling out and forming their own team?) since they are
> much
> > > > bigger than TLH.
> > >
> > > That would work for me.  Split 'em into Team Sloth and Team
> > > Avarice!  (those
> > > are the only two of the Seven Deadly Sins I can remember)
> > >
> > > > Derive an average index for each team.  Since there are quite a few
> > > drivers
> > > > that are using street tires, I would recommend we apply an
> additional
> > > street
> > > > tire index.  The easy way to get this index is take Street Touring
> and
> > > > subtract Street Touring S's index from it and you get .027, or 1.62
> > > seconds
> > > > per 60 seconds (a conservative number, but not bad and better than
> > > nothing).
> > > > So my ESP 300ZX's index would fall from a .822 to a .795.
> > >
> > > I think a better approach is to DIVIDE the STS index by that for STR.
> I
> > > came up with a "street tire multiplier" of .967, which changes your
> Z's
> > > index to... well, to .795.  Okay, for most of us it works out the same
> > > either way, but I like my approach better.  So there! :-b
> > >
> > > But then the problem we run into is, are these people claiming to be
> on
> > > street tires actually on street tires?  For instance, I could lie
> about
> > > running my streets yesterday at Marina.  If we adopt a modified index
> for
> > > street tires, I would end up with a PAX time that would look more
> > > appropriate for Andy McKee than myself if I told such a lie and
> > > you fell for
> > > it (not that I think you would).  I like this approach in
> > > principle, but it
> > > may require a little too much policing for a friendly competition such
> as
> > > this one.  This is just for fun after all.
> > >
> > > > Next, (and I'm sure I'm going to get lots of flack for this
> > > idea) I would
> > > > suggest that we approach this kinda like a Pro-Solo finale...take
> the
> > > > average indexed time for each team and apply a handicap modifier so
> that
> > > all
> > > > teams fished with an IDENTICAL time for this first event.  Then for
> the
> > > next
> > > > two events, each team to win has to IMPROVE their times against how
> they
> > > did
> > > > in the first event because of the handicap index set in the first
> event.
> > > > Make sense?
> > >
> > > I don't really like this idea.  It just mucks things up too much.
> > >
> > > This is a good start, though.  We can probably come up with a workable
> > > scoring system about the time they finally decide who will be
> President ;)
> > >
> > > Scot - Leader of the Long-Haired Freaky People (at least that's what
> Katie
> > > K. called me) and SFR's Resident Burnout King
> > > '91 CS Miata
> > > Team Longhair
> 
> 
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