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RE: More DNWs

To: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@home.com>, <jesvilla@gte.net>,
Subject: RE: More DNWs
From: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:01:12 -0800
If somebody gets a DNW at an event, perhaps we could mark their name so
if/when they show up at the next event, they have to work twice to avoid
another DNW. I think this would be a firm way to get the point across
without blacklisting, taking cards or other nastiness. Anybody who got a DNW
by honest mistake should be happy to "make it up" with extra work at the
next event, and it might increase the number of available workers.

Like any idea, it will work only if it's easy to keep track of. I have no
idea how easy or hard this would be to keep track of, just seemed like an
easy and fair thing to do.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Pat Kelly
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 13:54
To: jesvilla@gte.net; Cheryl Grantz
Cc: ba autocross list
Subject: Re: More DNWs


    When this whole deal started, we simply gave no points or finishing
position with a "DNW" by the name. For some it took a few of these before it
sank in. I can thing of some very well known drivers where it took 5 DNWs!
    Asking registraion to maintain a list to keep the bad apples out is not
a good idea, as the folks who run change during run groups.
    Lately we've not been showing times, too (which we used to do, just so's
the offender would know where they could have finished had he/she worked.
But we've drawn a harder line at present.
    Usually the offenders get the picture pretty quickly and do one of two
things: 1) don't return; or 2) return and work. Either is okay with me.
    Another offense some do is to get their names checked off, and wander
away. So you really have to be a cop to keep them going in the right
direction. :)
--Pat K
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>From: Jesus Villarreal <jesvilla@gte.net>
>To: Cheryl Grantz <sgrantz@peoplepc.com>
>Cc: ba autocross list <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: More DNWs
>Date: Thu, Nov 1, 2001, 1:45 PM
>

>Cheryl Grantz wrote:
>>
>>
>> So every worker sheet was compared to the results to see if the lack of
>> workers was due to some people not even signing up to work.
>>
>> Sherry
>
>People caught doing this should be penalized somehow. Maybe confiscating
>their SCCA membership card at the next event they attend(we might not be
>able to do that) or banning them for a year. I had a few doing this at
>AAS events, it only took one warning of being banned for a year and they
>didn't do it again. At least I haven't caught anyone doing it lately. If
>they get mad and don't come back, so what, SCCA doesn't need bad apples.
>Most good people will respond positively to a firm warning.
>
>Jesus

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