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Re[2]: The "Evil L" and it's removal...

To: "Patrick P. Castronovo" <slick1@mohaveaz.com>
Subject: Re[2]: The "Evil L" and it's removal...
From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:42:44 -0700
Any amount of oil is not going to help, if the chain is loose enough to 
slap it then the Evil-L will eventually get torn off. Besides, the metal 
fragments getting scraped off can't be doing your bearings any good!

There are only two smart solutions if the Evil-L is gouged.
1) Remove it by snapping it off, and then later on fix the loose timing chain 
problems that caused the Evil-L to get gouged.
2) Take apart the timing setup and fix the loose timing chain problems that 
caused the Evil-L to get gouged.

A third solution is to shim the tensioner etc. to stop the loose chain problem. 
But if you're going to that much trouble, why not snap off the Evil-L at that 
time?

Rather than attempt exotic solutions like an oiler tube, why not fix the engine 
to specs so the chain doesn't slap the Evil-L? This may be a problem with heads 
that were shaved too much, but replacing the timing gears and chains should be 
normal maintenance every so often on a 2000 (every 60,000 miles or so?).

Fred - So.SF
http://www.2xtreme.net/fredkatz


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Subject: Re: The "Evil L" and it's removal...
Author:  "Patrick P. Castronovo" <slick1@mohaveaz.com>
Date:    5/16/2001 11:08 AM


It is obvious to me that that part does not hav oil running to it.  I wonder 
if fashioning a tube from the oiler to that bracket where the chain rides, 
would lube it sufficently that this would help to eliminate the problem.
     
-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Southwell <rulee@cityscape.net> 
To: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow@home.com>
Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> 
Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: The "Evil L" and it's removal...
     
     
>Gordon, after looking at your excelent pictures of the evil L , I,m 
wonering if one
>can,t weld the damage ( TIG) and reshape it? or is it a hardened piece, or 
wierd
>alloy?
>Russ Southwell 70 1600, 4 Dead 2L
>
>Gordon Glasgow wrote:
>
>> I can't think of any way to cut it off that won't introduce a lot of 
metal
>> shavings into the engine. Why not just shim the tensioner and take the 
slack out
>> of the chain? If the timing chains are new and the head hasn't been cut a 
ton,
>> it should be easy.
>>
>> Your timing will not be affected by that chain. The timing is controlled 
by the
>> lower chain (from the crank to the jackshaft). 
>>
>> To Chris: Yes, the "Evil L" is that upper bracket. And here's how bad 
they can
>> get:
>> http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/images/Evil_L_3.JPG 
>> http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/images/Evil_L_4.JPG
>> http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/images/Evil_L_2_closeup.JPG 
>>
>> Gordon Glasgow
>> Renton, WA
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
>> [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Ken Pearce 
>> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 11:13 PM
>> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
>> Subject: The "Evil L" and it's removal... 
>>
>> Questions questions questions...
>>
>> 1.)  I want to remove the "Evil L" before my timing chain does the job 
for
>> me.  I took off the valve cover today to inspect it, and while the 
knotches
>> worn into the bracket are only about a 1/16" deep, I don't like the idea 
of
>> metal shavings in the engine.  All the timing components are almost new, 
I
>> just need to get cam tower shims when I have the $$$... 
>>
>> What's the best way to remove the piece of the bracket?  I would rather 
not
>> remove the cam sprocket if I don't absolutely have to.  If I have to cut 
it
>> with a hacksaw, I would have to stuff clean rags down the front of the 
>> engine to prevent any shavings from falling down there.  Maybe a magnet 
>> placed directly below the sawing would help?  Will the L just break off 
if I
>> put some vice-grips on it and start bending?  It doesn't look like I can 
get
>> a dremel in there. :(
>>
>> 2.)  Assuming I get the L removed, is my engine timing affected that much 
my
>> the chain being a little loose at low rpm?  I guess I could check it with 
a
>> timing light at various rpm levels... 
>>
>> 3.)  I bought one of those really cool stainless steel SU carb 
heatshields
>> last year at Shasta but still haven't installed it.  Has anyone installed 
>> one of these without pulling the carbs?  Every way I try to slide the
>> heatshield in there is blocked by something of other... 
>>
>> I did a little arc welding today with the throttle cable and the positive 
>> battery terminal.  Very exciting!  Of all the places that cable could 
have
>> landed, it had to be on the terminal!  Murphy's way of reminding me to be 
>> more careful!
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Ken Pearce, 68-2000
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________

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