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They could add the big spikes to the wheels and allow the other drivers to =
hurl chains like in Ben Hur
--- On Thu, 9/11/08, fubog1@aol.com <fubog1@aol.com> wrote:
From: fubog1@aol.com <fubog1@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] OT- F1 at Spa online petition
To: spitlist@cox.net, Billb@bnj.com
Cc: fot@autox.Team.Net
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 11:24 AM
Heck the curbs (kerbs) are part of the racetrack, albeit lacking some=20
grip (non-existent when wet).
If they actually raised them, it's likely gonna tear up a lot more than=20
suspension.
Perhaps they should just ban passing in the corners?
Glen
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry <spitlist@cox.net>
To: 'Bill Babcock' <Billb@bnj.com>
Cc: fot@autox.Team.Net; fubog1@aol.com
Sent: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:09 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] OT- F1 at Spa online petition
I think
that
the kerbs (curbs) should be made
more penal in those areas because they are supposed to
be there to
keep the cars within the
confines of the track.=A0 If they
raised the level of the kerbs, people would not
be so aggressive in trying to pass knowing that if they
don=A2t pull it off, they
will lose their suspension.
=A0
Joe
=A0
From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Babcock
Sent:
Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:58 AM
To: Bill Babcock
Cc: fot@autox.Team.Net;
fubog1@aol.com
Subject:
Re: [Fot] OT- F1 at Spa online petition
=A0
Incidentally, I don't think
Kimi was wrong to shove Hamilton
off the track
in the chicane either. In a competition at that
level you are not owed racing room,
you have to take
it. If Alonso had been in Kimi's
shoes Hamilton
would have lost his right front
wheel. =A0
=A0
On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:50 AM,
Bill Babcock wrote:
Great race, torturous
ending. I also consider Hamilton's moves to be perfectly
proper.
=A0
I AM a Kimi fan, he's a great
driver, I was cheering him on while he passed=A0Hamilton=A0at first
and then pulled out a lead, =A0and I was in agony when he first lost the=20
lead and then
hit the
wall. But Hamilton's
pass was=A0squeaky=A0clean. I can't
see how the FIA could even countenance a penalty.
=A0It was=A0spectacular=A0driving, well within
the cut
and thrust
of competition
and in full compliance with the rules of surrendering=A0a gain made off=20
track. I believe the
FIA has added an element of
over-regulation and fundamental unfairness to
the entire
F1 scene. I don't care if Max Mosely
dresses up like Eva Braun and screws goats,
but his leadership of the FIA has damaged the
sport by moving victory from the
driver's seat to
the steward's
fat ass. For that I'd support
giving him the boot.=A0
=A0
On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:13 AM,
fubog1@aol.com wrote:
Well certainly there
are those who hold that
opinion, not least of all
the FIA... but...
the facts
remain that
he DID give up the position to
Kimi, I don't think
th
ere is a specified distance for the
lead, and
this was confirmed with both the team
& race officials at the time.
I watched the
race, and the replay of the last
3 laps at least
a dozen
times, and I can't see how he put
Kimi out. Also consider the dry tires
& wet track
conditions.
Personaly I thought that it was
a fine example of driving since he was
well alongside Kimi when he went
off; the alternative being that he
would surely have taken both of them
out of the
race, had he not gone
off course.
I also understand that there are some who just
don't favor
Hamilton/McClaren, evidenced by some
of the politics
and "soap opera"
issues of late...
I respect your opinion
Thank you!
Glen
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry <spitlist@cox.net>
To: fubog1@aol.com; fot@autox.Team.Net
Sent: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:47 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] OT- =A0F1 at
Spa online petition
I will NOT sign that petition. =A0The way I saw the
situation,
while
Hamilton
did back off a bit and allow Kimi to get
back in front, he did not back
off
enough to give up his inertia and maintained
it long enough to
immediately
get back in the
lead.
In my humble opinion, the penalty is just.
=A0His Rookie actions caused
Kimi
to crash out
and=3D2
0that
does nothing to
erase that
outcome.
I would have black flagged Hamilton and not even allowed him to
claim
3rd
place. =A0That would have been
justice in my opinion.
Joe C.
-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]
On
Behalf Of fubog1@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:42 AM
To: fot@autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Fot]
OT- F1 at Spa online petition
I realize that
a lot of you were busy last Sunday, and probably didn't
catch the
Spa race, and on-line petitions have questionable
value, but
this is one that may be worthy...
Last night
there were approx 15,000, this morning nearly 50,000. There
are a lot of pissed off F1 fans!
http://www.petitiononline.com/belgp08/petition.html
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=A0
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=A0
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=A0
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top" style=3D"font: inherit;">They could add the big spikes to the wheels a=
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Thu, 9/11/08, fubog1@aol.com <I><fubog1@aol.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid">From: fubog1@aol.com <fubog1@aol.com><BR>Subjec=
t: Re: [Fot] OT- F1 at Spa online petition<BR>To: spitlist@cox.net, Billb@b=
nj.com<BR>Cc: fot@autox.Team.Net<BR>Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 11:=
24 AM<BR><BR><PRE>Heck the curbs (kerbs) are part of the racetrack, albeit =
lacking some=20
grip (non-existent when wet).
If they actually raised them, it's likely gonna tear up a lot more than=20
suspension.
Perhaps they should just ban passing in the corners?
Glen
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry <spitlist@cox.net>
To: 'Bill Babcock' <Billb@bnj.com>
Cc: fot@autox.Team.Net; fubog1@aol.com
Sent: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:09 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] OT- F1 at Spa online petition
I think
that
the kerbs (curbs) should be made
more penal in those areas because they are supposed to
be there to
keep the cars within the
confines of the track. If they
raised the level of the kerbs, people would not
be so aggressive in trying to pass knowing that if they
don=A2t pull it off, they
will lose their suspension.
Joe
From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Babcock
Sent:
Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:58 AM
To: Bill Babcock
Cc: fot@autox.Team.Net;
fubog1@aol.com
Subject:
Re: [Fot] OT- F1 at Spa online petition
Incidentally, I don't think
Kimi was wrong to shove Hamilton
off the track
in the chicane either. In a competition at that
level you are not owed racing room,
you have to take
it. If Alonso had been in Kimi's
shoes Hamilton
would have lost his right front
wheel.
On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:50 AM,
Bill Babcock wrote:
Great race, torturous
ending. I also consider Hamilton's moves to be perfectly
proper.
I AM a Kimi fan, he's a great
driver, I was cheering him on while he passed Hamilton at first
and then pulled out a lead, and I was in agony when he first lost the=
=20
lead and then
hit the
wall. But Hamilton's
pass was squeaky clean. I can't
see how the FIA could even countenance a penalty.
It was spectacular driving, well within
the cut
and thrust
of competition
and in full compliance with the rules of surrendering a gain made off=
=20
track. I believe the
FIA has added an element of
over-regulation and fundamental unfairness to
the entire
F1 scene. I don't care if Max Mosely
dresses up like Eva Braun and screws goats,
but his leadership of the FIA has damaged the
sport by moving victory from the
driver's seat to
the steward's
fat ass. For that I'd support
giving him the boot.
On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:13 AM,
fubog1@aol.com wrote:
Well certainly there
are those who hold that
opinion, not least of all
the FIA... but...
the facts
remain that
he DID give up the position to
Kimi, I don't think
th
ere is a specified distance for the
lead, and
this was confirmed with both the team
& race officials at the time.
I watched the
race, and the replay of the last
3 laps at least
a dozen
times, and I can't see how he put
Kimi out. Also consider the dry tires
& wet track
conditions.
Personaly I thought that it was
a fine example of driving since he was
well alongside Kimi when he went
off; the alternative being that he
would surely have taken both of them
out of the
race, had he not gone
off course.
I also understand that there are some who just
don't favor
Hamilton/McClaren, evidenced by some
of the politics
and "soap opera"
issues of late...
I respect your opinion
Thank you!
Glen
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry &lt;spitlist@cox.net&gt;
To: fubog1@aol.com; fot@autox.Team.Net
Sent: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:47 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] OT- F1 at
Spa online petition
I will NOT sign that petition. The way I saw the
situation,
while
Hamilton
did back off a bit and allow Kimi to get
back in front, he did not back
off
enough to give up his inertia and maintained
it long enough to
immediately
get back in the
lead.
In my humble opinion, the penalty is just.
His Rookie actions caused
Kimi
to crash out
and=3D2
0that
does nothing to
erase that
outcome.
I would have black flagged Hamilton and not even allowed him to
claim
3rd
place. That would have been
justice in my opinion.
Joe C.
-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]
On
Behalf Of fubog1@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:42 AM
To: fot@autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Fot]
OT- F1 at Spa online petition
I realize that
a lot of you were busy last Sunday, and probably didn't
catch the
Spa race, and on-line petitions have questionable
value, but
this is one that may be worthy...
Last night
there were approx 15,000, this morning nearly 50,000. There
are a lot of pissed off F1 fans!
http://www.petitiononline.com/belgp08/petition.html
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Editor
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