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To: "Rick McCurdy" <fmccjr@aol.com>, "Phil Gott" <vfracing@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Shop Safety Question
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 08:28:11 -0500
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My lighthearted contribution to this important thread.
Band Aids, lots of Band Aids seems I=E2=80=99m always cutting or poking =
myself with something sharp. Tylenol for the aches and pain of age =
related things maybe I shouldn=E2=80=99t be doing.

From: Rick McCurdy via Fot=20
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 8:08 AM
To: Phil Gott=20
Cc: Friends Of Triumph=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] Shop Safety Question

I=E2=80=99ll add to the pile.=20
In addition to the fire apparatus and aforementioned accoutrements, I =
always have tweezers, a mirror and a magnifying glass handy.

No matter how tightly I wear safety glasses, I ALWAYS manage to drop =
something rusty in my eye. (I don=E2=80=99t only work on a clean race =
car. (Currently, it=E2=80=99s a =E2=80=9867 Jeepster Convertible). =
Cotton swabs and a mirror save the day.

The tweezers become necessary because WHENEVER I=E2=80=99m grinding =
welds, suddenly there is an irritation inside my glove and I=E2=80=99ve =
got to track down the splinter with the magnifier and pull it out with =
the tweezer. Ahhh, sweet relief! Must be those HF splinter magnet =
gloves.

(Of course, if my welding skills were a little better I wouldn=E2=80=99t =
have to grind...=F0=9F=91=8D)


Rick McCurdy
Newburgh, NY


  On Jan 17, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:


  =EF=BB=BFGood advice, all of it.=20
  In addition to a large extinguisher near each exit door I have an open =
5 gallon bucket filled 2/3 with water. Great for dousing fires and for =
dunking/tempering hot pieces off the grinding wheel. Faster response =
than a hose or even an extinguisher. Used it when I set the grass affire =
outside my barn while grinding on my trailer. Yikes!
  Phil


  Sent from my iPhone


    On Jan 16, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Bob Bownes -Seiri via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:


    =EF=BB=BF=20

    Sounds a bit silly, but a broom. =20

    Keeping the floor clean cuts down on slips and trips, which OSHA =
says are some of the most common causes of liability claims.=20

    Bi-focal safety glasses for those of us over a certain age. Keeps =
you from taking them off to see better.=20

    The usual assortment of fire extinguishers of course.=20

    And a phone to call for help. :)




      On Jan 16, 2021, at 15:38, Jason Sukey via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:


      =EF=BB=BF=20
      Paul, =20
      Beyond the "minimum code requirement" extinguisher's that get =
inspected and tagged annually, I also keep a 2.5 gallon pressurized AFFF =
extinguisher and a 2.5 gallon water extinguisher charged and ready at my =
shop.

      The township fire inspector recommend the AFFF for fuel and oil =
type fires, and he also stated it can be used to pre-treat a fuel spill =
while you clean it up to reduce the chances of a fire starting.=20

      He also recommended the water extinguisher near my welding area to =
knock down small flare ups.

      I also make it a point to never leave until any welding or =
grinding work has cooled completely.

      I also disconnect the battery in vehicles during storage.


      When draining or filling a fuel tank, I roll the vehicle outside =
if possible.

      Thankfully, I've never had a chance to test any of these items!

      Jason

      On Sat, Jan 16, 2021, 1:32 PM Paul Ricco via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:

        FOT,

        I have been lucky to work in some very well run industrial =
environments with world class safety equipment.  As we know, the stuff =
costs money and a lot of people work without most of it in their own =
environments.

        We have been updating a lot of items in the areas that we work =
on car and car parts.  It is fun to spend money on tools and equipment.  =
However, safety equipment is not always as fun.  Near where we live, two =
pretty smart people have had fires damage their garages and parts of =
their houses before the fire department could arrive.  While I was =
running large car dealerships and body shops, I can tell you that fire =
extinguishers did need to be used from time to time.  Fortunately we had =
them and never needed to make a call to the fire department, because the =
right things were in the right places.

        Therefore, we just upgraded all of our safety equipment.  =
Including:

        1.  Splatter/spark screens for areas that we weld or grind
        2.  High quality US made fire extinguishers with plenty of =
capacity, including mounting them in the the trailer for at the track.  =
Some fires can be spread really quickly by hitting the with H20.  =
Generally speaking water will not put out burning oil fire.  However, it =
will spread the burning oil all over really quickly.
        3.  Spark resistant blankets for use when we are welding in =
areas that things should be covered
        4.  Making sure all flammables are stored safely and away from =
areas that could have sparks
        5.  New and updated smoke detectors, heat sensors and Carbon =
Monoxide monitors where they can be used (not where we tune engines)

        Obviously common sense can prevent a lot of accidents.  =
Therefore, I though it would be interesting to see what the group has =
done in their work areas.

        Does anyone have anything else that keep around that they feel =
is helpful for shop area/garage safety?

        Paul Ricco
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<DIV>My lighthearted contribution to this important thread.</DIV>
<DIV>Band Aids, lots of Band Aids seems I=E2=80=99m always cutting or =
poking myself with=20
something sharp. Tylenol for the aches and pain of age related things =
maybe I=20
shouldn=E2=80=99t be doing.</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Dfot@autox.team.net>Rick=20
McCurdy via Fot</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 17, 2021 8:08 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dvfracing@aol.com>Phil Gott</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dfot@autox.team.net>Friends Of Triumph</A> =
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Shop Safety Question</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>I=E2=80=99ll add to the pile. </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>In addition to the fire apparatus and aforementioned =
accoutrements,=20
I always have tweezers, a mirror and a magnifying glass handy.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>No matter how tightly I wear safety glasses, I ALWAYS =
manage to=20
drop something rusty in my eye. (I don=E2=80=99t only work on a clean =
race car.=20
(Currently, it=E2=80=99s a =E2=80=9867 Jeepster Convertible). Cotton =
swabs and a mirror save the=20
day.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>The tweezers become necessary because WHENEVER =
I=E2=80=99m grinding welds,=20
suddenly there is an irritation inside my glove and I=E2=80=99ve got to =
track down the=20
splinter with the magnifier and pull it out with the tweezer. Ahhh, =
sweet=20
relief! Must be those HF splinter magnet gloves.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>(Of course, if my welding skills were a little better I =
wouldn=E2=80=99t=20
have to grind...=F0=9F=91=8D)</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Rick McCurdy</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Newburgh, NY</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">On Jan 17, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Phil Gott via Fot =

  &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>=EF=BB=BFGood advice, all of it.=20
  <DIV>In addition to a large extinguisher near each exit door I have an =
open 5=20
  gallon bucket filled 2/3 with water. Great for dousing fires and for=20
  dunking/tempering hot pieces off the grinding wheel. Faster response =
than a=20
  hose or even an extinguisher. Used it when I set the grass affire =
outside my=20
  barn while grinding on my trailer. Yikes!</DIV>
  <DIV>Phil<BR><BR>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">On Jan 16, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Bob Bownes =
-Seiri via=20
    Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>=EF=BB=BF=20
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>Sounds a bit silly, but a broom.&nbsp; </DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>Keeping the floor clean cuts down on slips and trips, =
which=20
    OSHA says are some of the most common causes of liability claims. =
</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>Bi-focal safety glasses for those of us over a =
certain age.=20
    Keeps you from taking them off to see better. </DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>The usual assortment of fire extinguishers of course. =
</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>And a phone to call for help. :)</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr><BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">On Jan 16, 2021, at 15:38, Jason Sukey via =
Fot=20
      &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
      <DIV dir=3Dltr>=EF=BB=BF=20
      <DIV>Paul,&nbsp;=20
      <DIV>Beyond the "minimum code requirement" extinguisher's that get =

      inspected and tagged annually, I also keep a 2.5 gallon =
pressurized AFFF=20
      extinguisher and a 2.5 gallon water extinguisher charged and ready =
at my=20
      shop.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>The township fire inspector recommend the AFFF for fuel and =
oil type=20
      fires, and he also stated it can be used to pre-treat a fuel spill =
while=20
      you clean it up to reduce the chances of a fire starting. </DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>He also recommended the water extinguisher near my welding =
area to=20
      knock down small flare ups.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>I also make it a point to never leave until any welding or =
grinding=20
      work has cooled completely.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>I also disconnect the battery in vehicles during =
storage.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>When draining or filling a fuel tank, I roll the vehicle =
outside if=20
      possible.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Thankfully, I've never had a chance to test any of these =
items!</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Jason</DIV></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>
      <DIV class=3Dgmail_attr dir=3Dltr>On Sat, Jan 16, 2021, 1:32 PM =
Paul Ricco via=20
      Fot &lt;<A>fot@autox.team.net</A>&gt; wrote:<BR></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
      style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: =
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">FOT,<BR><BR>I=20
        have been lucky to work in some very well run industrial =
environments=20
        with world class safety equipment.&nbsp; As we know, the stuff =
costs=20
        money and a lot of people work without most of it in their own=20
        environments.<BR><BR>We have been updating a lot of items in the =
areas=20
        that we work on car and car parts.&nbsp; It is fun to spend =
money on=20
        tools and equipment.&nbsp; However, safety equipment is not =
always as=20
        fun.&nbsp; Near where we live, two pretty smart people have had =
fires=20
        damage their garages and parts of their houses before the fire=20
        department could arrive.&nbsp; While I was running large car =
dealerships=20
        and body shops, I can tell you that fire extinguishers did need =
to be=20
        used from time to time.&nbsp; Fortunately we had them and never =
needed=20
        to make a call to the fire department, because the right things =
were in=20
        the right places.<BR><BR>Therefore, we just upgraded all of our =
safety=20
        equipment.&nbsp; Including:<BR><BR>1.&nbsp; Splatter/spark =
screens for=20
        areas that we weld or grind<BR>2.&nbsp; High quality US made =
fire=20
        extinguishers with plenty of capacity, including mounting them =
in the=20
        the trailer for at the track.&nbsp; Some fires can be spread =
really=20
        quickly by hitting the with H20.&nbsp; Generally speaking water =
will not=20
        put out burning oil fire.&nbsp; However, it will spread the =
burning oil=20
        all over really quickly.<BR>3.&nbsp; Spark resistant blankets =
for use=20
        when we are welding in areas that things should be =
covered<BR>4.&nbsp;=20
        Making sure all flammables are stored safely and away from areas =
that=20
        could have sparks<BR>5.&nbsp; New and updated smoke detectors, =
heat=20
        sensors and Carbon Monoxide monitors where they can be used (not =
where=20
        we tune engines)<BR><BR>Obviously common sense can prevent a lot =
of=20
        accidents.&nbsp; Therefore, I though it would be interesting to =
see what=20
        the group has done in their work areas.<BR><BR>Does anyone have =
anything=20
        else that keep around that they feel is helpful for shop =
area/garage=20
        safety?<BR><BR>Paul=20
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