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Subject: Re: [Fot] Shop Safety Question
From: Rick Parent via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 15:06:45 +0000 (UTC)
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For deep cuts super glue is the best!
Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequence=
s"
=20

    On Sunday, January 17, 2021, 09:29:39 AM EST, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@a=
utox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Band Aids? Those are for the house. A strip of paper towels held in place =
by electrical tape is the shop solution.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 17, 2021, at 7:29 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:



=EF=BB=BF
My lighthearted contribution to this important thread.Band Aids, lots of Ba=
nd Aids seems I=E2=80=99m always cutting or poking myself with something sh=
arp. Tylenol for the aches and pain of age related things maybe I shouldn=
=E2=80=99t be doing.=C2=A0From: Rick McCurdy via Fot Sent: Sunday, January =
17, 2021 8:08 AMTo: Phil Gott Cc: Friends Of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Sho=
p Safety Question=C2=A0I=E2=80=99ll add to the pile. In addition to the fir=
e apparatus and aforementioned accoutrements, I always have tweezers, a mir=
ror and a magnifying glass handy.=C2=A0No matter how tightly I wear safety =
glasses, I ALWAYS manage to drop something rusty in my eye. (I don=E2=80=99=
t only work on a clean race car. (Currently, it=E2=80=99s a =E2=80=9867 Jee=
pster Convertible). Cotton swabs and a mirror save the day.=C2=A0The tweeze=
rs become necessary because WHENEVER I=E2=80=99m grinding welds, suddenly t=
here is an irritation inside my glove and I=E2=80=99ve got to track down th=
e splinter with the magnifier and pull it out with the tweezer. Ahhh, sweet=
 relief! Must be those HF splinter magnet gloves.=C2=A0(Of course, if my we=
lding skills were a little better I wouldn=E2=80=99t have to grind...=F0=9F=
=91=8D)=C2=A0=C2=A0Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NY

On Jan 17, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:



 =EF=BB=BFGood advice, all of it. In addition to a large extinguisher near =
each exit door I have an open 5 gallon bucket filled 2/3 with water. Great =
for dousing fires and for dunking/tempering hot pieces off the grinding whe=
el. Faster response than a hose or even an extinguisher. Used it when I set=
 the grass affire outside my barn while grinding on my trailer. Yikes! Phil

 Sent from my iPhone=20
=20
On Jan 16, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Bob Bownes -Seiri via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>=
 wrote:


=20
 =EF=BB=BF =C2=A0 Sounds a bit silly, but a broom.=C2=A0  =C2=A0 Keeping th=
e floor clean cuts down on slips and trips, which OSHA says are some of the=
 most common causes of liability claims.  =C2=A0 Bi-focal safety glasses fo=
r those of us over a certain age. Keeps you from taking them off to see bet=
ter.  =C2=A0 The usual assortment of fire extinguishers of course.  =C2=A0 =
And a phone to call for help. :) =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
=20
On Jan 16, 2021, at 15:38, Jason Sukey via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:


=20
 =EF=BB=BF Paul,=C2=A0 Beyond the "minimum code requirement" extinguisher's=
 that get inspected and tagged annually, I also keep a 2.5 gallon pressuriz=
ed AFFF extinguisher and a 2.5 gallon water extinguisher charged and ready =
at my shop. =C2=A0 The township fire inspector recommend the AFFF for fuel =
and oil type fires, and he also stated it can be used to pre-treat a fuel s=
pill while you clean it up to reduce the chances of a fire starting.  =C2=
=A0 He also recommended the water extinguisher near my welding area to knoc=
k down small flare ups. =C2=A0 I also make it a point to never leave until =
any welding or grinding work has cooled completely. =C2=A0 I also disconnec=
t the battery in vehicles during storage. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 When draining or fi=
lling a fuel tank, I roll the vehicle outside if possible. =C2=A0 Thankfull=
y, I've never had a chance to test any of these items! =C2=A0 Jason =C2=A0 =
 On Sat, Jan 16, 2021, 1:32 PM Paul Ricco via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:
=20
FOT,

I have been lucky to work in some very well run industrial environments wit=
h world class safety equipment.=C2=A0 As we know, the stuff costs money and=
 a lot of people work without most of it in their own environments.

We have been updating a lot of items in the areas that we work on car and c=
ar parts.=C2=A0 It is fun to spend money on tools and equipment.=C2=A0 Howe=
ver, safety equipment is not always as fun.=C2=A0 Near where we live, two p=
retty smart people have had fires damage their garages and parts of their h=
ouses before the fire department could arrive.=C2=A0 While I was running la=
rge car dealerships and body shops, I can tell you that fire extinguishers =
did need to be used from time to time.=C2=A0 Fortunately we had them and ne=
ver needed to make a call to the fire department, because the right things =
were in the right places.

Therefore, we just upgraded all of our safety equipment.=C2=A0 Including:

1.=C2=A0 Splatter/spark screens for areas that we weld or grind
2.=C2=A0 High quality US made fire extinguishers with plenty of capacity, i=
ncluding mounting them in the the trailer for at the track.=C2=A0 Some fire=
s can be spread really quickly by hitting the with H20.=C2=A0 Generally spe=
aking water will not put out burning oil fire.=C2=A0 However, it will sprea=
d the burning oil all over really quickly.
3.=C2=A0 Spark resistant blankets for use when we are welding in areas that=
 things should be covered
4.=C2=A0 Making sure all flammables are stored safely and away from areas t=
hat could have sparks
5.=C2=A0 New and updated smoke detectors, heat sensors and Carbon Monoxide =
monitors where they can be used (not where we tune engines)

Obviously common sense can prevent a lot of accidents.=C2=A0 Therefore, I t=
hough it would be interesting to see what the group has done in their work =
areas.

Does anyone have anything else that keep around that they feel is helpful f=
or shop area/garage safety?

Paul Ricco
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;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">For deep cuts super glue is =
the best!</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp1bad21c4signature"><div styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Rick Parent</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">"<i>Doing=
 the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences</i>"=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></div></div></div>
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                <div>
                    On Sunday, January 17, 2021, 09:29:39 AM EST, Bob Krame=
r via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"yiv4468063456"><div>Band Aids? Those are fo=
r the house. A strip of paper towels held in place by electrical tape is th=
e shop solution.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent=
 from my iPhone</div><div class=3D"yiv4468063456yqt2526404889" id=3D"yiv446=
8063456yqt48555"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te">On Jan 17, 2021, at 7:29 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team=
.net&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
</div></blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"yiv4468063456yqt2526404889" id=
=3D"yiv4468063456yqt36946"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri';COLOR:#000000;">
<div>My lighthearted contribution to this important thread.</div>
<div>Band Aids, lots of Band Aids seems I=E2=80=99m always cutting or pokin=
g myself with=20
something sharp. Tylenol for the aches and pain of age related things maybe=
 I=20
shouldn=E2=80=99t be doing.</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR=
:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline;">
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<div><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Calibri"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5;">
<div style=3D""><b>From:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" title=3D"fot@autox.team.net">Rick=20
McCurdy via Fot</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 17, 2021 8:08 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" titl=
e=3D"vfracing@aol.com">Phil Gott</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" titl=
e=3D"fot@autox.team.net">Friends Of Triumph</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Shop Safety Question</div></div></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR=
:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99ll add to the pile. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">In addition to the fire apparatus and aforementioned accou=
trements,=20
I always have tweezers, a mirror and a magnifying glass handy.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">No matter how tightly I wear safety glasses, I ALWAYS mana=
ge to=20
drop something rusty in my eye. (I don=E2=80=99t only work on a clean race =
car.=20
(Currently, it=E2=80=99s a =E2=80=9867 Jeepster Convertible). Cotton swabs =
and a mirror save the=20
day.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The tweezers become necessary because WHENEVER I=E2=80=99m=
 grinding welds,=20
suddenly there is an irritation inside my glove and I=E2=80=99ve got to tra=
ck down the=20
splinter with the magnifier and pull it out with the tweezer. Ahhh, sweet=
=20
relief! Must be those HF splinter magnet gloves.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">(Of course, if my welding skills were a little better I wo=
uldn=E2=80=99t=20
have to grind...=F0=9F=91=8D)</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Rick McCurdy</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Newburgh, NY</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 17, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Phil Gott via Fot=20
  &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></=
blockquote></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BFGood advice, all of it.=20
  <div>In addition to a large extinguisher near each exit door I have an op=
en 5=20
  gallon bucket filled 2/3 with water. Great for dousing fires and for=20
  dunking/tempering hot pieces off the grinding wheel. Faster response than=
 a=20
  hose or even an extinguisher. Used it when I set the grass affire outside=
 my=20
  barn while grinding on my trailer. Yikes!</div>
  <div>Phil<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 16, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Bob Bownes -Seiri =
via=20
    Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></blockquote></div>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
    <div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF=20
    <div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">Sounds a bit silly, but a broom.&nbsp; </div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">Keeping the floor clean cuts down on slips and trips, =
which=20
    OSHA says are some of the most common causes of liability claims. </div=
>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">Bi-focal safety glasses for those of us over a certain=
 age.=20
    Keeps you from taking them off to see better. </div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">The usual assortment of fire extinguishers of course. =
</div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">And a phone to call for help. :)</div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 16, 2021, at 15:38, Jason Sukey via Fo=
t=20
      &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none=
"></blockquote></div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF=20
      <div>Paul,&nbsp;=20
      <div>Beyond the "minimum code requirement" extinguisher's that get=20
      inspected and tagged annually, I also keep a 2.5 gallon pressurized A=
FFF=20
      extinguisher and a 2.5 gallon water extinguisher charged and ready at=
 my=20
      shop.</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>The township fire inspector recommend the AFFF for fuel and oil =
type=20
      fires, and he also stated it can be used to pre-treat a fuel spill wh=
ile=20
      you clean it up to reduce the chances of a fire starting. </div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>He also recommended the water extinguisher near my welding area =
to=20
      knock down small flare ups.</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>I also make it a point to never leave until any welding or grind=
ing=20
      work has cooled completely.</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>I also disconnect the battery in vehicles during storage.</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>When draining or filling a fuel tank, I roll the vehicle outside=
 if=20
      possible.</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>Thankfully, I've never had a chance to test any of these items!<=
/div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>Jason</div></div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div class=3D"yiv4468063456gmail_quote">
      <div class=3D"yiv4468063456gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Jan 16, 20=
21, 1:32 PM Paul Ricco via=20
      Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">fot@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
      <blockquote class=3D"yiv4468063456gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:=
1ex;BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;">FOT,<br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none">I=20
        have been lucky to work in some very well run industrial environmen=
ts=20
        with world class safety equipment.&nbsp; As we know, the stuff cost=
s=20
        money and a lot of people work without most of it in their own=20
        environments.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">We have been upd=
ating a lot of items in the areas=20
        that we work on car and car parts.&nbsp; It is fun to spend money o=
n=20
        tools and equipment.&nbsp; However, safety equipment is not always =
as=20
        fun.&nbsp; Near where we live, two pretty smart people have had fir=
es=20
        damage their garages and parts of their houses before the fire=20
        department could arrive.&nbsp; While I was running large car dealer=
ships=20
        and body shops, I can tell you that fire extinguishers did need to =
be=20
        used from time to time.&nbsp; Fortunately we had them and never nee=
ded=20
        to make a call to the fire department, because the right things wer=
e in=20
        the right places.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Therefore, w=
e just upgraded all of our safety=20
        equipment.&nbsp; Including:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">1.=
&nbsp; Splatter/spark screens for=20
        areas that we weld or grind<br clear=3D"none">2.&nbsp; High quality=
 US made fire=20
        extinguishers with plenty of capacity, including mounting them in t=
he=20
        the trailer for at the track.&nbsp; Some fires can be spread really=
=20
        quickly by hitting the with H20.&nbsp; Generally speaking water wil=
l not=20
        put out burning oil fire.&nbsp; However, it will spread the burning=
 oil=20
        all over really quickly.<br clear=3D"none">3.&nbsp; Spark resistant=
 blankets for use=20
        when we are welding in areas that things should be covered<br clear=
=3D"none">4.&nbsp;=20
        Making sure all flammables are stored safely and away from areas th=
at=20
        could have sparks<br clear=3D"none">5.&nbsp; New and updated smoke =
detectors, heat=20
        sensors and Carbon Monoxide monitors where they can be used (not wh=
ere=20
        we tune engines)<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Obviously com=
mon sense can prevent a lot of=20
        accidents.&nbsp; Therefore, I though it would be interesting to see=
 what=20
        the group has done in their work areas.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">Does anyone have anything=20
        else that keep around that they feel is helpful for shop area/garag=
e=20
        safety?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Paul=20
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