While searching around for more info I found a thread from another list
discussing this:
>The discussion that has been going through the list lately has prompted
a
>question - has anyone considered using one of the metal prep solutions
inside
>steel frames after building. The metal preps are phosporic acid
solutions
>sold by DuPont and other professional car paint companys and really
work
>great in terms of forming a layer of phospated iron on raw metal. Such
a
>coating has some corrosion protection of its own but is also gives a
great
>surface for adsorbtion of oils/waxes or paint and would be of great
benefit
>for futrher application of "framesaver" type products.
>I've found that a great all-purpose prep for frames before
>painting is a hot dunk in bathroom tub and tile cleaner that I
>get in gallon jugs at Costco, much cheaper than proper phosphoric
>metal prep, but it combines phosphoric acid with detergent, so
>any steel part soaked in it will emerge uniformly gray and
>completely degreased, needing only a quick water rinse to be
>ready for painting.
>It's probably also fair to note that Petroleum Jelly [yes, Vaseline]
is
>chemically the same as cosmoline. Melt it and pour it in?
>>Somwhere around the garage I have a surplus catalog that
has a good price on government-surplus hot-melt Cosmoline
in 10lb bricks, cheaper than Vaseline and it smells just
like military surplus tools ;-) Can't remember which
catalog it is, maybe Barnacle Wharf?
Just picking nits, but Cosmoline is partially-oxidized
petroleum jelly, while Vaseline is not partially-oxidized,
unless you happen to have a jar that's been sitting open a
really long time in a hot climate, in which case it gets
brown and smelly just like Cosmoline.<<
At 9:15 PM -0500 2/9/01, Paul A. Asgeirsson wrote:
>Hi Gerard,
>
>I hate to admit to this, but I was hanging around gas stations and
garages
>long before cars came equipped with coil springs! It was a common
practice
>to grease cars every 1000 miles and check all lubricants, you think
only
>Brit cars leaked? and the other thing that was done was to paint the
sides
>of leaf springs with a special concoction. This was an extra charge
item,
>usually. Many springs on cars were wrapped with metal sleeves that had
>grease fittings on them, cinchy to lube, others were wrapped in canvas
type
>stuff, best left to the dealer.
>
>Anyway, the stuff that was used to paint the spring sides was made up
of
>chassis lube, LOTS of graphite powder and enough motor oil to thin it
out
>so you could mix it up and it would run, sneaky like, between the
spring
>leaves. All mixed up in about a 1 quart oil can, 1/2 full or so. It
was
>painted on with a bristle shorten paint brush, continually dipping it
into
>the stuff and brushing vigorously onto the springs. Simple formula,
worked
>well. No high tech here, just good results. Wonder if this would be
an
>EPA apprved way today?
>
>Regards, Paul A
>
>FROM: Gerard Chateauvieux, INTERNET:pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com
>TO: Spridgets, INTERNET:spridgets@autox.team.net
>CC: Bryan Vandiver, INTERNET:bryan.vandiver@sun.com
>DATE: 2/9/01 6:47 PM
>
>Re: Cosmoline?...
>
>
>When asking for suggestions for preserving my leaf springs, someone
>suggested trying cosmoline. I've since come to learn that this is used
to
>preserve cars and engines for transportation... and also for guns.
(Sorry,
>but I think I'm about to start a gun thread... but not intentionally).
>Since, for some strange reason, I think there are a few gun enthusiasts
on
>the list, I thought I might get some opinions or sources of this
product.
>An internet search revealed tons of references/questions for removal,
but
>that's about it.
>
>I had the impression cosmoline remained in an oily-waxey state, but
some
>info I read leads me to believe it dries hard.
>
>Is this a practical solution? Is the stuff safe to use? (no jokes about
as
>safe as the persons hands it's in)
>
>anonymous
>
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