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Makes me laugh sometimes when this lore comes back. Ye gods, Standard could a=
fford to provide a one armed war wounded man a paintbrush!!!
What so many over the pond continuously fail to appreciate when it comes to t=
he wet liner four pot is that the block was common to many different uses. T=
he basic block appeared in the TR, Vanguard, Ensign, Leyland 15 and 20 later=
on and in differing sizes for industrial applications. One basic block, man=
y different engine types! The =E2=80=9Cpaint codes, colours and shapes=E2=80=
=9D were worked out by engine assembly people in line with engine build shee=
ts. They knew what they were doing and as long as the correct unit was built=
, no one else worried.
The story about Sir John Black and returning servicemen is another affair of=
equal import. I wrote it out for TVT some years ago but someone chopped lum=
ps out of it and I vetoed the print because it gave a rather different and b=
y no means as comprehensive account, and skewed the narrative to Black=E2=80=
=99s disadvantage.
Jonmac
Sent from my iPad
> On 10 Feb 2019, at 16:34, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> My April 1962 TR3B=E2=80=99s engine=E2=80=99s marshaling marks were brushe=
d for sure.=20
>=20
>> On Sunday, February 10, 2019, Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com> wrote:
>> The few that I have seen personally have a brushed appearance. =C2=BE inc=
h wide, coarse brush. A one armed man can still use a brush.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Stan
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Don Hiscock=
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 8:25 AM
>> To: Lawarence Schwartz <L1j1s@aol.com>
>> Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Paint code
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Perhaps our forum friend John Macartney canl come in with more and better=
information, but Sir John Black made a real commitment to disabled war vets=
. S-T found productive work for many, for years and years. It wouldn't sur=
prise me at all that one of those positions was marking engines.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Don
>>=20
>> 1962 TR3B TSF202L
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 7:06 AM Lawarence Schwartz <L1j1s@aol.com> wrote:=
>>=20
>> With reference to the Tr3 engine block markings I remember reading sever=
al years ago along with having conversations a Tr gatherings that at the end=
of the engine production line there was one employee with only one arm and h=
e was responsible for writing TR 3 using just one finger which he zipped int=
o the orange red paint and scribbled the markings on the engine block. Larry=
Schwartz
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 12:44 AM, wbeech <wbeech@flash.net> wrote:
>>=20
>> Great picture Don, I have always re-painted the orange =E2=80=9CTR3=E2=80=
=9D after an engine rebuild, used Chevrolet engine orange. Had never seen t=
he china marker markings before.
>>=20
>> Bill
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don H=
iscock
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 5:47 PM
>> To: John Macartney <John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk>; Triumphs <triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Paint code
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Here's an image of the Coventry assembly line taken by a member of the to=
ur group on Triumph USA's 1958 Rally of Europe for new owners who took their=
delivery at the factory and toured the Continent. One can see some of the v=
arious marshalling marks on the engines ready to be used on the line.
>>=20
>> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-b5KrzK2/0/86ac2744/O/i-b5KrzK2.jpg
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:38 PM John Macartney <John.Macartney@ukpips.org=
.uk> wrote:
>>=20
>> Thing is Jack, that this far down the track, no one knows! In fact, I dou=
bt the majority of people at the factory did either:)
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Cheers, John
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPad
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 17 Jan 2019, at 17:50, Jack McGahey <McGaheyRx@aol.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> I have those markings on my TR6 block - reapplied after engine rebuild du=
ring restoration.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> I can=E2=80=99t speak about TRA, but I can say that neither VTR or 6-pack=
look for these markings, or deduct for their absence, during Concours judgi=
ng - and I=E2=80=99ve never heard anybody say they knew what they meant or w=
hy they are there.=20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>>=20
>> Jack Mc
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPad
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Jan 17, 2019, at 9:27 AM, John Macartney <john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk=
> wrote:
>>=20
>> Jim
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> In the rebuild of your car, did you by chance find any obscure markings i=
n yellow or white chinagraph chalk on the engine block? These were common id=
entifiers used at the factory that were understood by those who worked in en=
gine assembly =E2=80=93 but no-one else. Primarily, the mark was to distingu=
ish the machined but unassembled block as being an ultimate engine for a Nor=
th America spec car. Not all the blocks had these marks but I do know many o=
thers have encountered them years later and wondered what the hell they were=
. Being anxious to replicate what had been there after re-painting the block=
, they replaced the code. I=E2=80=99d be very surprised if TRA or VTR have e=
xtra marks in their judging books =E2=80=93 or even deduct marks if they wer=
en=E2=80=99t there.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Cheers, Jonmac
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.teamnet> On Behalf Of Jim Hennings=
en
>> Sent: 17 January 2019 12:31
>> To: wbeech@flash.net
>> Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Paint code
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Bill:
>>=20
>> I have the TRA judging guide for the TR4 and have been using it as my plu=
mb line for the restoration going back to 2010 when I purchased the car. Th=
e trick is what to tell the auto paint store for a color to match that would=
be acceptable to judges. My goal isn=E2=80=99t to beat everyone in a conco=
urs but to faithfully recreate the car as it was born. I am not interested i=
n trophies. Over the 8 years restoring this car, s I have sometimes found i=
t hard to get info from the expert judges and respected restorers of these c=
ars. I=E2=80=99d love to know more specifics on the color and or source that=
experts in TRA think correct. Also, I heard Macy=E2=80=99s Garage had an e=
arly TR4at the last TRA event. Does anyone have any detailed photos of that=
car they could share. The few I saw looked magnificent and they have such a=
great reputation. =20
>>=20
>> Thanks so much,
>>=20
>> Jim Henningsen
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPad
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Jan 16, 2019, at 10:42 PM, Wbeech@flash.net <wbeech@flash.net> wrote:
>>=20
>> Judging guide Reference Should be TRA, my oversight.=20
>>=20
>> Bill
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> On Jan 16, 2019, at 8:29 PM, Wbeech@flash.net <wbeech@flash.net> wrote:
>>=20
>> If y=E2=80=99all will allow one more =E2=80=9Cauthority=E2=80=9D to weigh=
in, the VTR Judging Guidlines state, =E2=80=9CThe canister is painted ice b=
lue (specific color unknown) which takes a pale green caste with age.=E2=80=9D=
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> I=E2=80=99ll stick with my Valspar Peacock Blue.=20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>>=20
>> Bill
>>=20
>> Sent from my Motorola 8000X
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Jan 16, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> The TR Register (UK) forum had a thread on the subject of oil filter cani=
ster housings a few years ago.
>>=20
>> https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/44252-oil-filter-bo=
wl/
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Note especially the comments by our late, great friend Alec Pringle about=
his experience with lots of variations and the quite realistic comment that=
S-T were a lot more worried about keeping lines going and spares supplied t=
han getting details "right" around shade.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> The thread has some useful info, but this is one of those don't-sweat-it s=
ubjects around our cars.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Don
>>=20
>> 1962 TR3B TSF202L
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:01 PM James Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>>=20
>> Anyone have a source for correct paint color on early 1962 TR4 oil filter=
canister housing. TRA judging manual says ice blue that patinas to a pale g=
reen. Looking for a color code I can give my paint shop. Thanks to any co=
ncours experts out there.=20
>> Jim Henningsen=20
>> Ocala FL
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Makes me laugh sometimes when this lore com=
es back. Ye gods, Standard could afford to provide a one armed war wounded m=
an a paintbrush!!!<div>What so many over the pond continuously fail to appre=
ciate when it comes to the wet liner four pot is that the block was common t=
o many different uses. The basic block appeared in the TR, Vanguard, Ensign,=
Leyland 15 and 20 later on and in differing sizes for industrial applicatio=
ns. One basic block, many different engine types! The =E2=80=9Cpaint codes, c=
olours and shapes=E2=80=9D were worked out by engine assembly people in line=
with engine build sheets. They knew what they were doing and as long as the=
correct unit was built, no one else worried.</div><div>The story about Sir J=
ohn Black and returning servicemen is another affair of equal import. I wrot=
e it out for TVT some years ago but someone chopped lumps out of it and I ve=
toed the print because it gave a rather different and by no means as compreh=
ensive account, and skewed the narrative to Black=E2=80=99s disadvantage.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Jonmac<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"l=
tr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 10 Feb 2019, at 16:34, Do=
n Hiscock <<a href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com";>don.hiscock@gmail.com=
</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">My A=
pril 1962 TR3B=E2=80=99s engine=E2=80=99s marshaling marks were brushed for s=
ure. <br><br>On Sunday, February 10, 2019, Stan Foster <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:stan@redtr6.com">stan@redtr6.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex">
<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The few that I have seen personally have a brushed ap=
pearance. =C2=BE inch wide, coarse brush. A one armed man can still use a br=
ush.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Stan<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-=
bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.<wbr>n=
et</a>> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Don Hiscock<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 10, 2019 8:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lawarence Schwartz <<a href=3D"mailto:L1j1s@aol.com"; target=3D=
"_blank">L1j1s@aol.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Paint code<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Perhaps our forum friend John Macartney canl come in w=
ith more and better information, but Sir John Black made a real commitment t=
o disabled war vets. S-T found productive work for many, for years and=
years. It wouldn't surprise me at
all that one of those positions was marking engines.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Don<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1962 TR3B TSF202L<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 7:06 AM Lawarence Schwartz &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:L1j1s@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">L1j1s@aol.com</a>> w=
rote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in=
0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">With reference to the T=
r3 engine block markings I remember reading several years ago along wi=
th having conversations a Tr gatherings that at the end of the engine produc=
tion line there was one employee with
only one arm and he was responsible for writing TR 3 using just one finger w=
hich he zipped into the orange red paint and scribbled the markings on the e=
ngine block. Larry Schwartz<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On Jan 18, 2019, at 12:44 AM, wbeech <<a href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net"=
target=3D"_blank">wbeech@flash.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">Great picture Don, I ha=
ve always re-painted the orange =E2=80=9CTR3=E2=80=9D after an engine rebuil=
d, used Chevrolet engine orange. Had never seen the china marker
markings before.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">Bill</span><u></u><u></=
u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u>=
</u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bou=
nces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">mailto:triumphs-bounces@<wbr>autox.te=
am.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Hiscock<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 17, 2019 5:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Macartney <<a href=3D"mailto:John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk=
" target=3D"_blank">John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>><wbr>; Triumphs <=
<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.=
team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Paint code<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here's an image of the Coventry assembly line taken b=
y a member of the tour group on Triumph USA's 1958 Rally of Europe for new o=
wners who took their delivery at the factory and
toured the Continent. One can see some of the various marshalling mar=
ks on the engines ready to be used on the line.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-b5KrzK=
2/0/86ac2744/O/i-b5KrzK2.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/<=
wbr>photos/i-b5KrzK2/0/86ac2744/O/<wbr>i-b5KrzK2.jpg</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:38 PM John Macartney <<a=
href=3D"mailto:John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk"; target=3D"_blank">John.Macartn=
ey@ukpips.org.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in=
0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bo=
ttom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thing is Jack, that this far down the track, no one k=
nows! In fact, I doubt the majority of people at the factory did either:)<u>=
</u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Cheers, John<u></u><u>=
</u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPad<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On 17 Jan 2019, at 17:50, Jack McGahey <<a href=3D"mailto:McGaheyRx@aol.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">McGaheyRx@aol.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have those markings on my TR6 block - reapplied aft=
er engine rebuild during restoration.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I can=E2=80=99t speak about TRA, but I can say that n=
either VTR or 6-pack look for these markings, or deduct for their absence, d=
uring Concours judging - and I=E2=80=99ve never heard anybody say
they knew what they meant or why they are there. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Jack Mc<u></u><u></u><=
/p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPad<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On Jan 17, 2019, at 9:27 AM, John Macartney <<a href=3D"mailto:john.macar=
tney@ukpips.org.uk" target=3D"_blank">john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>> w=
rote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jim<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In the rebuild of your car, did you by chance find an=
y obscure markings in yellow or white chinagraph chalk on the engine block? T=
hese were common identifiers used at the factory
that were understood by those who worked in engine assembly =E2=80=93 but n=
o-one else. Primarily, the mark was to distinguish the machined but unassemb=
led block as being an ultimate engine for a North America spec car. Not all t=
he blocks had these marks but I do know
many others have encountered them years later and wondered what the hell th=
ey were. Being anxious to replicate what had been there after re-painting th=
e block, they replaced the code. I=E2=80=99d be very surprised if TRA or VTR=
have extra marks in their judging books
=E2=80=93 or even deduct marks if they weren=E2=80=99t there.<u></u><u></u>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers, Jonmac<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-=
bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.<wbr>teamne=
t</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Henningsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 January 2019 12:31<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net"; target=3D"_blank">wbeech@flas=
h.net</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Paint code<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bill:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have the TRA judging guide for the TR4 and have bee=
n using it as my plumb line for the restoration going back to 2010 when I pu=
rchased the car. The trick is what to tell the
auto paint store for a color to match that would be acceptable to judges.&n=
bsp; My goal isn=E2=80=99t to beat everyone in a concours but to faithfully r=
ecreate the car as it was born. I am not interested in trophies. =
Over the 8 years restoring this car, s I have sometimes
found it hard to get info from the expert judges and respected restorers of=
these cars. I=E2=80=99d love to know more specifics on the color and or sou=
rce that experts in TRA think correct. Also, I heard Macy=E2=80=99s Ga=
rage had an early TR4at the last TRA event. Does
anyone have any detailed photos of that car they could share. The few=
I saw looked magnificent and they have such a great reputation. <u></=
u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks so much,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Jim Henningsen<u></u><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPad<u></u><u></u></p>
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On Jan 16, 2019, at 10:42 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:Wbeech@flash.net"; target=3D"=
_blank">Wbeech@flash.net</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net"; target=3D=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Judging guide Reference Should be TRA, my oversight.&=
nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bill<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jan 16, 2019, at 8:=
29 PM,
<a href=3D"mailto:Wbeech@flash.net"; target=3D"_blank">Wbeech@flash.net</a> &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net"; target=3D"_blank">wbeech@flash.net</a=
>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If y=E2=80=99all will allow one more =E2=80=9Cauthori=
ty=E2=80=9D to weigh in, the VTR Judging Guidlines state, =E2=80=9CThe canis=
ter is painted ice blue (specific color unknown) which takes a pale green ca=
ste
with age.=E2=80=9D<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ll stick with my Valspar Peacock Blue. =
;<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my Motorola 8000X<u></u><u></u></p>
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On Jan 16, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Don Hiscock <<a href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></=
u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The TR Register (UK) forum had a thread on the subjec=
t of oil filter canister housings a few years ago.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://wwwtr-register.co.uk/forums/index.=
php?/topic/44252-oil-filter-bowl/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.tr-register=
.co.uk/<wbr>forums/index.php?/topic/44252-<wbr>oil-filter-bowl/</a><u></u><u=
></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Note especially the comments by our late, great frien=
d Alec Pringle about his experience with lots of variations and the quite re=
alistic comment that S-T were a lot more worried
about keeping lines going and spares supplied than getting details "right" a=
round shade.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The thread has some useful info, but this is one of t=
hose don't-sweat-it subjects around our cars.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Don<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1962 TR3B TSF202L<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:01 PM James Henningsen <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:trguy75@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">trguy75@gmail.com</a=
>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Anyone have a source for correct paint color on early=
1962 TR4 oil filter canister housing. TRA judging manual says ice blu=
e that patinas to a pale green. Looking for a color
code I can give my paint shop. Thanks to any concours experts o=
ut there. <br>
Jim Henningsen <br>
Ocala FL<br>
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