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John, you=E2=80=99ve previously discussed that commission number plates wer=
e
stamped by wounded veteran servicemen. I=E2=80=99ve always liked that thoug=
ht.
On Sunday, February 10, 2019, John Macartney <John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk>
wrote:
> Makes me laugh sometimes when this lore comes back. Ye gods, Standard
> could afford to provide a one armed war wounded man a paintbrush!!!
> What so many over the pond continuously fail to appreciate when it comes
> to the wet liner four pot is that the block was common to many different
> uses. The basic block appeared in the TR, Vanguard, Ensign, Leyland 15 an=
d
> 20 later on and in differing sizes for industrial applications. One basic
> block, many different engine types! The =E2=80=9Cpaint codes, colours and=
shapes=E2=80=9D
> were worked out by engine assembly people in line with engine build sheet=
s.
> They knew what they were doing and as long as the correct unit was built,
> no one else worried.
> The story about Sir John Black and returning servicemen is another affair
> of equal import. I wrote it out for TVT some years ago but someone choppe=
d
> lumps out of it and I vetoed the print because it gave a rather different
> and by no means as comprehensive account, and skewed the narrative to
> Black=E2=80=99s disadvantage.
>
> Jonmac
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 10 Feb 2019, at 16:34, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My April 1962 TR3B=E2=80=99s engine=E2=80=99s marshaling marks were brush=
ed for sure.
>
> On Sunday, February 10, 2019, Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com> wrote:
>
>> The few that I have seen personally have a brushed appearance. =C2=BE in=
ch
>> wide, coarse brush. A one armed man can still use a brush.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stan
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Don
>> Hiscock
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 10, 2019 8:25 AM
>> *To:* Lawarence Schwartz <L1j1s@aol.com>
>> *Cc:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Paint code
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps our forum friend John Macartney canl come in with more and bette=
r
>> information, but Sir John Black made a real commitment to disabled war
>> vets. S-T found productive work for many, for years and years. It
>> wouldn't surprise me at all that one of those positions was marking engi=
nes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don
>>
>> 1962 TR3B TSF202L
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 7:06 AM Lawarence Schwartz <L1j1s@aol.com> wrote=
:
>>
>> With reference to the Tr3 engine block markings I remember reading
>> several years ago along with having conversations a Tr gatherings that a=
t
>> the end of the engine production line there was one employee with only o=
ne
>> arm and he was responsible for writing TR 3 using just one finger which =
he
>> zipped into the orange red paint and scribbled the markings on the engin=
e
>> block. Larry Schwartz
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 12:44 AM, wbeech <wbeech@flash.net> wrote:
>>
>> Great picture Don, I have always re-painted the orange =E2=80=9CTR3=E2=
=80=9D after an
>> engine rebuild, used Chevrolet engine orange. Had never seen the china
>> marker markings before.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net
>> <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *Don Hiscock
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 17, 2019 5:47 PM
>> *To:* John Macartney <John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk>; Triumphs <
>> triumphs@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Paint code
>>
>>
>>
>> Here's an image of the Coventry assembly line taken by a member of the
>> tour group on Triumph USA's 1958 Rally of Europe for new owners who took
>> their delivery at the factory and toured the Continent. One can see som=
e
>> of the various marshalling marks on the engines ready to be used on the
>> line.
>>
>> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-b5KrzK2/0/86ac2744/O/i-b5KrzK2.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:38 PM John Macartney <
>> John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Thing is Jack, that this far down the track, no one knows! In fact, I
>> doubt the majority of people at the factory did either:)
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>> On 17 Jan 2019, at 17:50, Jack McGahey <McGaheyRx@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have those markings on my TR6 block - reapplied after engine rebuild
>> during restoration.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can=E2=80=99t speak about TRA, but I can say that neither VTR or 6-pac=
k look
>> for these markings, or deduct for their absence, during Concours judging=
-
>> and I=E2=80=99ve never heard anybody say they knew what they meant or wh=
y they are
>> there.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jack Mc
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2019, at 9:27 AM, John Macartney <john.macartney@ukpips.org.u=
k>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> In the rebuild of your car, did you by chance find any obscure markings
>> in yellow or white chinagraph chalk on the engine block? These were comm=
on
>> identifiers used at the factory that were understood by those who worked=
in
>> engine assembly =E2=80=93 but no-one else. Primarily, the mark was to di=
stinguish
>> the machined but unassembled block as being an ultimate engine for a Nor=
th
>> America spec car. Not all the blocks had these marks but I do know many
>> others have encountered them years later and wondered what the hell they
>> were. Being anxious to replicate what had been there after re-painting t=
he
>> block, they replaced the code. I=E2=80=99d be very surprised if TRA or V=
TR have
>> extra marks in their judging books =E2=80=93 or even deduct marks if the=
y weren=E2=80=99t
>> there.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Jonmac
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.teamnet
>> <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>> *On Behalf Of *Jim Henningsen
>> *Sent:* 17 January 2019 12:31
>> *To:* wbeech@flash.net
>> *Cc:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Paint code
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill:
>>
>> I have the TRA judging guide for the TR4 and have been using it as my
>> plumb line for the restoration going back to 2010 when I purchased the
>> car. The trick is what to tell the auto paint store for a color to matc=
h
>> that would be acceptable to judges. My goal isn=E2=80=99t to beat every=
one in a
>> concours but to faithfully recreate the car as it was born. I am not
>> interested in trophies. Over the 8 years restoring this car, s I have
>> sometimes found it hard to get info from the expert judges and respected
>> restorers of these cars. I=E2=80=99d love to know more specifics on the =
color and
>> or source that experts in TRA think correct. Also, I heard Macy=E2=80=
=99s Garage
>> had an early TR4at the last TRA event. Does anyone have any detailed
>> photos of that car they could share. The few I saw looked magnificent a=
nd
>> they have such a great reputation.
>>
>> Thanks so much,
>>
>> Jim Henningsen
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2019, at 10:42 PM, Wbeech@flash.net <wbeech@flash.net> wrote:
>>
>> Judging guide Reference Should be TRA, my oversight.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2019, at 8:29 PM, Wbeech@flash.net <wbeech@flash.net> wrote:
>>
>> If y=E2=80=99all will allow one more =E2=80=9Cauthority=E2=80=9D to weig=
h in, the VTR Judging
>> Guidlines state, =E2=80=9CThe canister is painted ice blue (specific col=
or unknown)
>> which takes a pale green caste with age.=E2=80=9D
>>
>>
>>
>> I=E2=80=99ll stick with my Valspar Peacock Blue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> Sent from my Motorola 8000X
>>
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The TR Register (UK) forum had a thread on the subject of oil filter
>> canister housings a few years ago.
>>
>> https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/44252-
>> oil-filter-bowl/
>> <https://wwwtr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/44252-oil-filter-b=
owl/>
>>
>>
>>
>> Note especially the comments by our late, great friend Alec Pringle abou=
t
>> his experience with lots of variations and the quite realistic comment t=
hat
>> S-T were a lot more worried about keeping lines going and spares supplie=
d
>> than getting details "right" around shade.
>>
>>
>>
>> The thread has some useful info, but this is one of those don't-sweat-it
>> subjects around our cars.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don
>>
>> 1962 TR3B TSF202L
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:01 PM James Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have a source for correct paint color on early 1962 TR4 oil filte=
r
>> canister housing. TRA judging manual says ice blue that patinas to a pa=
le
>> green. Looking for a color code I can give my paint shop. Thanks to a=
ny
>> concours experts out there.
>> Jim Henningsen
>> Ocala FL
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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John, you=E2=80=99ve previously discussed that commission number plates wer=
e stamped by wounded veteran servicemen. I=E2=80=99ve always liked that tho=
ught.=C2=A0<br><br>On Sunday, February 10, 2019, John Macartney <<a href=
=3D"mailto:John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk";>John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Makes me laug=
h sometimes when this lore comes back. Ye gods, Standard could afford to pr=
ovide a one armed war wounded man a paintbrush!!!<div>What so many over the=
pond continuously fail to appreciate when it comes to the wet liner four p=
ot is that the block was common to many different uses. The basic block app=
eared in the TR, Vanguard, Ensign, Leyland 15 and 20 later on and in differ=
ing sizes for industrial applications. One basic block, many different engi=
ne types! The =E2=80=9Cpaint codes, colours and shapes=E2=80=9D were worked=
out by engine assembly people in line with engine build sheets. They knew =
what they were doing and as long as the correct unit was built, no one else=
worried.</div><div>The story about Sir John Black and returning servicemen=
is another affair of equal import. I wrote it out for TVT some years ago b=
ut someone chopped lumps out of it and I vetoed the print because it gave a=
rather different and by no means as comprehensive account, and skewed the =
narrative to Black=E2=80=99s disadvantage.</div><div><br></div><div>Jonmac<=
br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 10 F=
eb 2019, at 16:34, Don Hiscock <<a href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com"=
target=3D"_blank">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">My April 1962 TR3B=E2=80=99s engine=E2=
=80=99s marshaling marks were brushed for sure.=C2=A0<br><br>On Sunday, Feb=
ruary 10, 2019, Stan Foster <<a href=3D"mailto:stan@redtr6.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">stan@redtr6.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
">
<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The few that I have seen personally have a brushed a=
ppearance. =C2=BE inch wide, coarse brush. A one armed man can still use a =
brush.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Stan<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs=
-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.n<wb=
r>et</a>> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Don Hiscock<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 10, 2019 8:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lawarence Schwartz <<a href=3D"mailto:L1j1s@aol.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">L1j1s@aol.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Paint code<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Perhaps our forum friend John Macartney canl come in=
with more and better information, but Sir John Black made a real commitmen=
t to disabled war vets.=C2=A0 S-T found productive work for many, for years=
and years.=C2=A0 It wouldn't surprise me at
all that one of those positions was marking engines.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Don<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1962 TR3B TSF202L<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 7:06 AM Lawarence Schwartz &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:L1j1s@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">L1j1s@aol.com</a>>=
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">With reference to the=
Tr3 engine =C2=A0block markings I remember reading several years ago along=
with having conversations a Tr gatherings that at the end of the engine pr=
oduction line there was one employee with
only one arm and he was responsible for writing TR 3 using just one finger=
which he zipped into the orange red paint and scribbled the markings on th=
e engine block. Larry Schwartz<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On Jan 18, 2019, at 12:44 AM, wbeech <<a href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net=
" target=3D"_blank">wbeech@flash.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">Great picture Don, I h=
ave always re-painted the orange =E2=80=9CTR3=E2=80=9D after an engine rebu=
ild, used Chevrolet engine orange.=C2=A0 Had never seen the china marker
markings before.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">Bill</span><u></u><u><=
/u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u=
></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bo=
unces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox<wbr>.=
team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Hiscock<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 17, 2019 5:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Macartney <<a href=3D"mailto:John.Macartney@ukpips.org.u=
k" target=3D"_blank">John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>><wbr>; Triumphs &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Paint code<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here's an image of the Coventry assembly line ta=
ken by a member of the tour group on Triumph USA's 1958 Rally of Europe=
for new owners who took their delivery at the factory and
toured the Continent.=C2=A0 One can see some of the various marshalling ma=
rks on the engines ready to be used on the line.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-b5Krz=
K2/0/86ac2744/O/i-b5KrzK2.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com=
/pho<wbr>tos/i-b5KrzK2/0/86ac2744/O/i-<wbr>b5KrzK2.jpg</a><u></u><u></u></p=
>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:38 PM John Macartney <<=
a href=3D"mailto:John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk"; target=3D"_blank">John.Macar=
tney@ukpips.org.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-=
bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thing is Jack, that this far down the track, no one =
knows! In fact, I doubt the majority of people at the factory did either:)<=
u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Cheers, John<u></u><u=
></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPad<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On 17 Jan 2019, at 17:50, Jack McGahey <<a href=3D"mailto:McGaheyRx@aol.=
com" target=3D"_blank">McGaheyRx@aol.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have those markings on my TR6 block - reapplied af=
ter engine rebuild during restoration.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I can=E2=80=99t speak about TRA, but I can say that =
neither VTR or 6-pack look for these markings, or deduct for their absence,=
during Concours judging - and I=E2=80=99ve never heard anybody say
they knew what they meant or why they are there.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Jack Mc<u></u><u></u>=
</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPad<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On Jan 17, 2019, at 9:27 AM, John Macartney <<a href=3D"mailto:john.maca=
rtney@ukpips.org.uk" target=3D"_blank">john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>>=
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jim<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In the rebuild of your car, did you by chance find a=
ny obscure markings in yellow or white chinagraph chalk on the engine block=
? These were common identifiers used at the factory
that were understood by those who worked in engine assembly =E2=80=93 but =
no-one else. Primarily, the mark was to distinguish the machined but unasse=
mbled block as being an ultimate engine for a North America spec car. Not a=
ll the blocks had these marks but I do know
many others have encountered them years later and wondered what the hell t=
hey were. Being anxious to replicate what had been there after re-painting =
the block, they replaced the code. I=E2=80=99d be very surprised if TRA or =
VTR have extra marks in their judging books
=E2=80=93 or even deduct marks if they weren=E2=80=99t there.<u></u><u></u=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers, Jonmac<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
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0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs=
-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.teamne<wb=
r>t</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Henningsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 January 2019 12:31<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net"; target=3D"_blank">wbeech@fla=
sh.net</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Paint code<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bill:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have the TRA judging guide for the TR4 and have be=
en using it as my plumb line for the restoration going back to 2010 when I =
purchased the car.=C2=A0 The trick is what to tell the
auto paint store for a color to match that would be acceptable to judges.=
=C2=A0 My goal isn=E2=80=99t to beat everyone in a concours but to faithful=
ly recreate the car as it was born.=C2=A0 I am not interested in trophies.=
=C2=A0 Over the 8 years restoring this car, s I have sometimes
found it hard to get info from the expert judges and respected restorers o=
f these cars. I=E2=80=99d love to know more specifics on the color and or s=
ource that experts in TRA think correct.=C2=A0 Also, I heard Macy=E2=80=99s=
Garage had an early TR4at the last TRA event.=C2=A0 Does
anyone have any detailed photos of that car they could share.=C2=A0 The fe=
w I saw looked magnificent and they have such a great reputation. =C2=A0<u>=
</u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks so much,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Jim Henningsen<u></u>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPad<u></u><u></u></p>
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On Jan 16, 2019, at 10:42 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:Wbeech@flash.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">Wbeech@flash.net</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net"; targe=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Judging guide Reference Should be TRA, my oversight.=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bill<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jan 16, 2019, at 8=
:29 PM,
<a href=3D"mailto:Wbeech@flash.net"; target=3D"_blank">Wbeech@flash.net</a> =
<<a href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net"; target=3D"_blank">wbeech@flash.net<=
/a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If y=E2=80=99all will allow one more =E2=80=9Cauthor=
ity=E2=80=9D to weigh in, the VTR Judging Guidlines state, =E2=80=9CThe can=
ister is painted ice blue (specific color unknown) which takes a pale green=
caste
with age.=E2=80=9D<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ll stick with my Valspar Peacock Blue.=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Bill<u></u><u></u></p=
>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my Motorola 8000X<u></u><u></u></p>
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On Jan 16, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Don Hiscock <<a href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u>=
</u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The TR Register (UK) forum had a thread on the subje=
ct of oil filter canister housings a few years ago.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://wwwtr-register.co.uk/forums/index=
.php?/topic/44252-oil-filter-bowl/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.tr-regist=
er.co.uk/<wbr>forums/index.php?/topic/44252-<wbr>oil-filter-bowl/</a><u></u=
><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Note especially the comments by our late, great frie=
nd Alec Pringle about his experience with lots of variations and the quite =
realistic comment that S-T were a lot more worried
about keeping lines going and spares supplied than getting details "r=
ight" around shade.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The thread has some useful info, but this is one of =
those don't-sweat-it subjects around our cars.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Don<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1962 TR3B TSF202L<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:01 PM James Henningsen &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:trguy75@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">trguy75@gmail.com<=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Anyone have a source for correct paint color on earl=
y 1962 TR4 oil filter canister housing.=C2=A0 TRA judging manual says ice b=
lue that patinas to a pale green.=C2=A0 Looking for a color
code I can give my paint shop.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks to any concours experts =
out there. <br>
Jim Henningsen <br>
Ocala FL<br>
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