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ah, wouldn't the longer spring cause the weights to be moved
outward...giving too much initial...
On 3/2/2020 2:06 PM, Randall wrote:
> Actually there is a reasonable explanation.
> The heavier springs are also longer than the old ones, so the tension
> as installed is lower.
>
> -- Randall
>
> On 2 March 2020 14:45:07 GMT-06:00, Paul Tegler <ptegler@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> Having studied this over and over again, even have gone as far as
> redesigning the whole timing system (during a F.I and full wasted
> spark conversion)� ... and with simple physics behind me I can
> comfortably say your empirical data has to be flawed....no nice
> way to say it.
>
> simple physics.... a tighter (stronger) spring will not extend as
> far as a lighter spring under the same weight applied.
>
> Either you jostled something in the initial setup/study, or your
> post spring work setup shifted something, throwing one of the two
> data sets out as a valid data reference.
>
> Either way,,,,this is possibly a mute point if it is now all
> working for you as expected.� :-)
>
> ptegler
>
>
> On 3/2/2020 2:15 PM, Peter Arakelian wrote:
>
>> >> A stiffer spring would have not allowed the weights to swing
>> out as far
>> at lower rpms. It would NOT ADD idle advance over the original
>> settings.<<
>>
>> �
>>
>> I admit that I believed the stronger springs would reduce
>> centripetal advance at idle .� But the empirical evidence shows
>> otherwise.� When I put the
>>
>> stiffer springs in the timing at idle ADVANCED 10-15 degrees.�
>> It is very stable.
>>
>> �
>>
>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
>> for Windows 10
>>
>> �
>>
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<p>ah, wouldn't the longer spring cause the weights to be moved
outward...giving too much initial...<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/2/2020 2:06 PM, Randall wrote:<br>
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Actually there is a reasonable explanation.<br>
The heavier springs are also longer than the old ones, so the
tension as installed is lower.<br>
<br>
-- Randall<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 2 March 2020 14:45:07 GMT-06:00, Paul
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<p>Having studied this over and over again, even have gone as
far as redesigning the whole timing system (during a F.I and
full wasted spark conversion)� ... and with simple physics
behind me I can comfortably say your empirical data has to
be flawed....no nice way to say it.</p>
<p>simple physics.... a tighter (stronger) spring will not
extend as far as a lighter spring under the same weight
applied. <br>
</p>
<p>Either you jostled something in the initial setup/study, or
your post spring work setup shifted something, throwing one
of the two data sets out as a valid data reference.</p>
<p>Either way,,,,this is possibly a mute point if it is now
all working for you as expected.� :-)</p>
<p>ptegler<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>On 3/2/2020 2:15 PM, Peter Arakelian wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> A stiffer spring would have
not allowed the weights to swing out as far <br>
at lower rpms. It would NOT ADD idle advance over the
original <br>
settings.<<</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>�</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I admit that I believed the stronger
springs would reduce centripetal advance at idle .�
But the empirical evidence shows otherwise.� When I
put the </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">stiffer springs in the timing at idle
ADVANCED 10-15 degrees.� It is very stable. </p>
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