Because vintage racing differs from pro or SCCA amateur racing in that the
cars run with more than one sanctioning group, and because the sanctioning
groups are unlikely to adopt identical policies, what if the race groups
(e.g. group 1,2,3,4,5 cars, etc.) formed individual, formal organizations
which maintained a consistent set of standards, and to which everyone who
wished to race in that group belonged. Not unlike Monoposto, these groups
could then, with considerable leverage, bring their shows to the various
races, knowing that their rules and standards would be applied.
Also like Monoposto, these clubs could conduct their own series, regardless
of the sanctioning groups with which they run.
I would think that the vintage sanctioning organizations would be very
responsive to a group which represented hundreds of cars, and which could
deliver a full grid at events it wishes to attend. It would, at the same
time, relieve the sanctioning groups of a hell of a lot of work in
determining and adjudicating eligibility.
Of course, the concept suggests dual, triple, or quadruple membership
scenaria, which is a drawback. But I know that one group has already
formed a loose organization of this nature, and HSR, for example, has been
very receptive to their new, and relatively small, "cartel".
Being new to vintage racing, I expect to hear that this has been tried,
won't work, old idea without merit, etc. But, thought I'd throw it out.
-Alfred
At 08:46 AM 11/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
>At 09:45 PM 20/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>JWoesvra@aol.com wrote:
>>> How about the relevancy of things like...
>>>
>>> 1. Crank-fire, distributorless ignitions
>>hopefully not on vintage production cars like SVRA group 3
>
>I don't think you should even be allowed to run dual point Mallory
>distributors! Lucas or nothing!
>>
>>> 2. Alternate transmissions
>>Boy, I'd sure like to have a Datsun 5 speed in my TR3 but it doesnt feel
>>right
>
>Ditto, unless the original tranny is replaced with a functionally identical
>part, as in rib-case tranny's in Spridgets.
>
>>
>>> 3. Dry sumps
>>see number 1
>
>Unless YOUR SPECIFIC CAR was run that way in the original time period, and
>you can prove it. Some were, like special works cars for Le Mans, or
something.
>
>>
>>> 4. Roller rockers and cams
>>I'd prefer not and haven't done it yet myself. Lots of folks have and
>>maybe it buys them some reliability that's worth the investment.
>
>These only buy reliability at the new and improved higher rev's that they
>can turn! New "stock" parts are available for just about every car, so
>fatigue life isn't the issue here.
>
>>
>>> 5. Radial vs bias-ply tires
>>Boy, talk about emotional - it was the hot topic in SVRA group 3 at
>>Mid-ohio last summer. There needs to be some peace between the race
>>organizers so that folks can take there cars to most any event and
>>race. It took me 5 weekends to figure out how to drive the Hoosiers on
>>my TR3. I did that so I could race with SVRA, others just walked away
>>and weren't willing to either go thru the agony or take what they feel
>>is a loss of performance. I wouldn't enjoy needing to switch back and
>>forth from one race to another so I just take my lumps at an HSR race
>>while I have a good time driving my car. On the other hand, I dont'
>>mind running 5th or 6th if I cant afford to be first.
>
>In VARAC, we don't even allow the Hoosiers! We have to run 450L section
>tires on our productions sports cars, and they are 3 -5 seconds a lap slower
>than Hoosiers, at least! ( Hence I won't be running my midget with VARAC
>once my tires wear out, which is a fairly idle threat since the tires seem
>to be hard as rocks and last forever...)
>>
>>> 6. Aftermarket heads and blocks
>>
>>Please, no, not in the old prod car group. I feel guilty enough with my
>>carillo rods.
>
>Even the rods are OK in my book - most everybody could have run them or
>their equivalent even in the mid - late fifties. And rods, cranks, etc, are
>a legitimate fatigue life wear item, in my book. Later blocks and heads are
>ok only if they are functionally identical to the early ones. And I really
>mean identical!
>>
>>> 7. Your favorite issue............
>
>Getting parity between racing organizations so that when I get whipped on
>the track, I know that I was in an even fight! I'm talking tires and
>suspension mods more than anything else, and I'm willing to put up with
>weird engines as long as people are honest about capacity.
>
>
>
>That's my dimes worth! Brian Evans, VARAC.
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