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Re: Electronics vs. old way Nastalgia class

To: "Dick J" <lsr_man@yahoo.com>, <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Electronics vs. old way Nastalgia class
From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:08:04 -0500
    I think some people are still missing the point. With a quick count
there are over 620 classes now on the books...which includes all the
existing Vintage classes. And currently Flathead Fords don't have to run 289
OHV Fords, Arduns don't have to run against Hemi's and Buick straight
eight's don't run against Chevy V-8's now. So what are we talking about? We
don't need to reinvent the wheel here guys. No body is being excluded from
LSR.

    John Beckett

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
To: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com <dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com>;
land-speed@autox.team.net <land-speed@autox.team.net>; bbutters@dmi.net
<bbutters@dmi.net>
Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way Nastalgia class


>Doug, I think you're missing a subtle point here.
> Those were the days when the greatest
>breakthrough in automotive history was one HP per
>cubic inch.  What are production cars doing now 3
>1/2 or 4 or even more in decent rice burners with
>variable cam timing etc? Some of us just want to
>have a place for some of the vintage stuff to
>still have fun.  I don't think a 300 inch
>flathead is going to fare too well against an
>electronic injected, computer ignitioned 302
>small block do you?  Those old Ardun conversions,
>finned aluminum flatheads, nail head Buicks,
>Y-block Fords with three deuces, 392 Hemis with
>dual fours or Hilborns, and straight eight Buicks
>ought to have a place to be showcased other than
>in magazine articles and museums! Do I feel
>threatened - hell no, I'm going to run my
>flathead roadster anyway, but it sure doesn't
>have much of a chance against a 289 Cobra or a
>5.0 Mustang!  But that doesn't mean I wouldn't
>like to have a place where I could still run in a
>competetive race. Don't worry, the old timers
>will never threaten the mega buck, monster cubic
>inch, electronically sparked, computer controled
>cars.  I'm sure you'll feel the pinch a little
>when your forhead gets longer and your belt gets
>bigger and the jet turbine cars, anti-gravity
>crusers, and nuclear powered zillion mile per
>hour science fiction racers of the future start
>to crowd your big block and every other internal
>combustion engine into antiquity. If that new,
>leading edge, high tech stuff is what is most
>important, then NHRA, Indycar, and F-1 events
>have a lot of it!  I for one, would still like to
>see old Novis, Alphas, and Offys run, but they
>can't share the track with modern stuff.  In LSR
>we race one at a time, so anything has a safe
>place on the track. There's room for all of us in
>LSR and I hope it stays that way.
>
>
>--- dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com wrote:
>> youve got to be kidding- a nostalgia class.  a
>> car with electronic fuel
>> injection cant race against a car with
>> mechanical fuel injection? a car
>> with exhaust thermocouples cant race against a
>> car without them ?  a car
>> with an electronic rev limiter cant race
>> against a car without one?  - this
>> is rediculous - are you guys that threatened by
>> some electronics that you
>> cannot throw down and race against them? - from
>> hearing about the
>> "nostalgia" days from my pop, these were the
>> days where you raced hardcore,
>> with what you had - street or drags- the days
>> of the real heads up warriors
>> -not worried about what the other guy had under
>> his hood ( oh, please
>> excuse me -i'm sorry - i cannot race you
>> because youve got a new 409 chevy)
>> -race to the death ! - victory !       -none of
>> this whining crap   - if
>> the "nostalgia" method is so great - go out and
>> show em and kick their a- -
>> es instead of sissifying this sport with a new
>> "wheelchair" classification
>> !
>>
>> and you know what else, now youre gonna get
>> record hunters unplugging their
>> oxygen sensors just so that they can grab the
>> equivalent record in your
>> "nostalgia" class ! -
>>
>> best regards -
>> doug @ black radon engineering
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>=====
>Dick J in East Texas
> - - ECTA #72 - -
> G/FCC  -   FX/STR




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